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If you can share a few things about your ownership of the Jaguar I-Pace, what would it be? The most liked or hated, share them with every one I am sure you won't be the only one.
Not 'hated', but rather annoyances and/or recommendations for improvement:
1. Water drips off the tailgate when opened. It runs down the lower part of the inside panel a drips onto you.
2. Tailgate should have a 'lock' button. As it is, you need to wait for the tailgate to completely close before you can lock the car. Super annoying when it is cold and sleeting/snowing out.
3. An 'auto-lock' feature. i.e. 15 seconds after walking away from the car it locks itself.
4. Capacitive door handles to trigger the lock/unlock versus the little button.
5. Lighted door handles to make it easier to find the little button.
6. Rear camera seems to collect dirt and grime too easily
7. Electric tilt wheel
8. Seats should move back and the wheel move up automatically when exiting the car
9. Charging port door cover seems overly big and flimsy
10. No warning of any kind if the charging port door doesn't latch and you start driving
11. Steering assist shuts off without warning; well except the solid lines go to dash lines, but no other audible/visual alert.
12. the included charger is a joke.
13. Need a watch app version of the Jaguar software.
14. It would be great if the Jaguar app tracked the energy loaded back into the car.
Seems like everything on that list are things that wouldn’t be too hard to do and I don’t imagine anyone would see any of them as a detractor.Hope you're not married. You sure are picky, LOL! [img= class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Just kidding around. Certainly there's always room for improvement on ANY vehicle and you make some good points. The "auto access" (entry & exit) with the driver's seat & power steering wheel moving out of the way & back into your preferring setting would be nice. BTW - we see you have many annoyances/recommendations for improvement but where are your "Likes" (PROs)? [img= class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
Regarding your #13 - Watch app; it says there is one and there are screenshots of it.Not 'hated', but rather annoyances and/or recommendations for improvement:
1. Water drips off the tailgate when opened. It runs down the lower part of the inside panel a drips onto you.
2. Tailgate should have a 'lock' button. As it is, you need to wait for the tailgate to completely close before you can lock the car. Super annoying when it is cold and sleeting/snowing out.
3. An 'auto-lock' feature. i.e. 15 seconds after walking away from the car it locks itself.
4. Capacitive door handles to trigger the lock/unlock versus the little button.
5. Lighted door handles to make it easier to find the little button.
6. Rear camera seems to collect dirt and grime too easily
7. Electric tilt wheel
8. Seats should move back and the wheel move up automatically when exiting the car
9. Charging port door cover seems overly big and flimsy
10. No warning of any kind if the charging port door doesn't latch and you start driving
11. Steering assist shuts off without warning; well except the solid lines go to dash lines, but no other audible/visual alert.
12. the included charger is a joke.
13. Need a watch app version of the Jaguar software.
14. It would be great if the Jaguar app tracked the energy loaded back into the car.
It’s there! Thank you!Regarding your #13 - Watch app; it says there is one and there are screenshots of it.
Voice controls for nav don't work for me and I was told wasn't available by the guy who came out to my home to run through features. Maybe I need a software update?PROs thus far: Smooth, supple, quiet ride. Aa absolute pleasure to drive! Great power and torque when you want to have some fun and it's available anytime, all the time. You can really feel the weight of the vehicle (which is a good thing in my book; I don't like it when it feels light and "toss-able" on the road), tight, sports car-like steering and handling. It's obvious high quality interior as well as a very nice looking, somewhat unique exterior wedge shape. I'm also very happy that JLR finally added Voice Controls for Navigation and other features...![]()
Voice controls for nav don't work for me and I was told wasn't available by the guy who came out to my home to run through features. Maybe I need a software update?
What version are you own and what are some examples of nav options can you speak? When a say Nav to or go to xyz it says this function is not yet available.Mine work. My software is fully updated, so yes, maybe you need a software update?
Did you track how accurate the Tesla DTE was compared to the I-Pace DTE using the odometer to verify both?My biggest gripe is with the range. For a $90k car with 90kw battery, I feel we should be seeing closer to 280 range vs lower 200. My display range has dropped over the last few weeks of owning and I barely use heater or a/c or drive it hard. I complained about this to my dealer who is still working with tech office in NJ to figure out if the car is getting the proper range. They did a battery reset once and it charged to 279, then next two charges were in the 240's, then drop to 230's, then to 220's now 211-213. Coming from Tesla this is really odd results. My Tesla charged full to 265 99% of the time; sometimes dropped to 261, but never lower. I feel it was much more efficient for consumption as well. I drove it up and down CA multiple times with ease and just needing a quick stop at a supercharger here and there. In the I-Pace I would not try a drive from Nor Cal to So Cal. I'm sure it is possible, but it would take way too long with stops and waiting for charging.
Alright. At this point I think it's pretty clear that the consensus is summarized here:I traded a Tesla Model X for my I-Pace.
Immediately I loved the quality of build, fit & finish close to flawless, performance, handling, etc. I'm not loving the Goodyear tires wrapped on the 20's. I do love the interior, but actually miss my soft cushy white seats from the Tesla. I'm sure the leather on the I-Pace will break in over time.
My biggest gripe is with the range. For a $90k car with 90kw battery, I feel we should be seeing closer to 280 range vs lower 200. My display range has dropped over the last few weeks of owning and I barely use heater or a/c or drive it hard. I complained about this to my dealer who is still working with tech office in NJ to figure out if the car is getting the proper range. They did a battery reset once and it charged to 279, then next two charges were in the 240's, then drop to 230's, then to 220's now 211-213. Coming from Tesla this is really odd results. My Tesla charged full to 265 99% of the time; sometimes dropped to 261, but never lower. I feel it was much more efficient for consumption as well. I drove it up and down CA multiple times with ease and just needing a quick stop at a supercharger here and there. In the I-Pace I would not try a drive from Nor Cal to So Cal. I'm sure it is possible, but it would take way too long with stops and waiting for charging.
I'm also surprised to see they went with a 7kw on board charger and limiting to 120 for dc fast charging. Home Tesla High Amp (80a) wall charger was putting out 54 miles per hour vs the Chargepoint w/ I-Pace 20 miles per hour. My Tesla did have the upgraded high speed onboard charger which I believe was 17kw or so. I don't agree with the philosophy that home charging should just be a slow overnight thing. Being in the bay area I drive all over the place all the time and want to be able to charge up a decent amount without needing to wait hours.
Is there one for Samsung Gear/Android watch?Regarding your #13 - Watch app; it says there is one and there are screenshots of it.
If you trim out a Model X with the 237 mile range to be similar to a First Edition, the Tesla is over $10,000 more. That would be MX 75D with red paint, nice 20" wheels, light interior, and autosteering + ACC. It has a larger boot, and gullwing doors, and can be used with Tesla chargers, L2 SAE, and CHAdeMO facilities....
My biggest gripe is with the range. For a $90k car with 90kw battery, I feel we should be seeing closer to 280 range vs lower 200. ...
There was a comparison in a euro magazine that compared the true range of the Model X to the i-Pace, and the i-Pace would go further on a charge. I'll see if I can find that article. Tesla exaggerated their number, Jaguar hit their number.Alright. At this point I think it's pretty clear that the consensus is summarized here:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-jaguar-i-pace-by-the-numbers
I guess it's all about expectations. For the driving that I will be doing routinely (and even for some long weekends) the range will be just fine. And around town, who gives a hoot about range? People get worked up about corner cases and hypotheticals.
My Tesla was a 90D and range was 265 and very accurate to getting that as actual range. I'm surprised to hear your seeing 253, mine is nowhere near that so maybe tech in NJ will find something up with my car. Did recently learn that my battery software is on v13.2 vs 14.2 and informed dealer about that today. Their looking into why I'm not on the latest software and how to update.If you trim out a Model X with the 237 mile range to be similar to a First Edition, the Tesla is over $10,000 more. That would be MX 75D with red paint, nice 20" wheels, light interior, and autosteering + ACC. It has a larger boot, and gullwing doors, and can be used with Tesla chargers, L2 SAE, and CHAdeMO facilities.
However, the FE has a lot more tricks up it's sleeve than the Model X. Some are pretty significant, like the blind spot mirrors, HUD, and 360° View.
So the i-Pace is more akin to a Model X 75D which has a 237mi EPA range when charged at 100%. But the Jag is cheaper, handles better, can be tracked (comes with a simple track computer and track mode), is quicker, and more snow/off-road capable.
So battery size is battery size. Like engine displacement.
Did you ever find out what your true range was in your Model X? Hint, it's not that number you see on a Tesla dash, that's basically a gas needle. It goes down as the battery wears, it does not learn your driving style. Driven like a civilized human, my i-Pace reads 253 miles after charging. I'm down to 211 miles now, and loving every mile. I even turned the Growl on. Hehehe... >![]()
Thought this was a good video, granted its from earlier this year, but they talk about how the max range is 480km (298 miles). Man, that would be nice if it was reality.There was a comparison in a euro magazine that compared the true range of the Model X to the i-Pace, and the i-Pace would go further on a charge. I'll see if I can find that article. Tesla exaggerated their number, Jaguar hit their number.