[sgtpeper]

I really should have researched this a bit more before I bought the car... I have the 22" CF wheels and they look incredible!

However, I live in Denver and really want a good all season tire instead of the summer only tire.

The issue is that there are literally NO all-season tires that fit the 22" rim as of now. I've contacted tire rack, the dealer, and discount tire and no one has an idea of even an alternative size that could fit. Perfect.

I did find on 1010tires.com that there is a Pirelli Scorpion snow tire that comes in the correct size. However, they don't have them in the US so they would have to come through Canada - with the tarrifs it's a challenge to get them over and will cost extra to get here.

Then I contacted the dealer about buying a second set of 20" wheels for the winter - those are 1200/wheel!

Soooo I'm more or less forced to get the Pirelli Scorpions and swap them out seasonally. Not the worst, but our temps aren't that severe and I'll burn through them quickly. Also don't love the idea of subjecting these rims to having tires taken off and on since few shops can work on them well.

If anyone has any other bright ideas, I'm game. Otherwise, let this post serve as a warning to others to not get the 22" rims if you live somewhere that has snow!

Regards,

 

[CyberSlug]

You should see if any other i-Pace owners on the board want to sell you the 18" off of their S model in case they replaced them with larger aftermarket wheels.

 

[dtgsrq]

Or just another I-Pace owner who wants to trade up to the 22s. They look stunning - garner lots of compliments.

 

[sgtpeper]

Yes, they look really really good! I especially love how they look when the car is at access height.

 

[dtgsrq]

Yep, they really "fill" the wheel wells and increase the futuristic look of the vehicle. Once I spotted the 22s I never even considered smaller... snow tires not an issue in FL.

 

[McRat]

Here's the specs for our cars: https://www.wheel-size.com/size/jaguar/i-pace/2019/ All are same hub dia. All of these are going be very close in circumference.

235/65R18 106V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
245/50R20 105V 8Jx20 ET52 5x108
255/40R22 103V 8.5Jx22 ET50.5 5x108

F-Pace:

235/65R18 110V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
255/60R18 112V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
255/55ZR19 111W 8.5Jx19 ET45 5x108
255/50ZR20 109W 8.5Jx20 ET45 5x108
265/40ZR22 106Y 9Jx22 ET45 5x108


If I were in your situation and did not want to purchase a set of winter rims (18's would be a good choice), I'd look at the 265/40-22 Michelin Pilot Sport All Season: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...r&autoYear=2019&autoModel=F-Pace&autoModClar=

 

[sgtpeper]

Thanks, McRat - when I called 1010 they were concerned because so far they don't think a wider tire will fit on this rim.

If they do fit, any thoughts on the added rolling resistance of a wider tire? I mean, the stock tire is already 10" wide ha.

 

[phila]

I got 20" winter tires and 22" summer tires. I would definitely want to drive on 22" during winter conditions though, i can just imagine the rims will take a beating. Most European countries dont really use all season tires. I have never understood this though, in North America even climates like Canada where the winters are long and tough all season tires are still more common then the separate winter / summer tire combination. Here the winters are not that bad but every October and April everyone change their tires.

 

[sgtpeper]

If i were using this car to go to the mountains a lot, I would get dedicated winter tires. However, this is my work and will just see city use. Because of that snow tires will simply wear out too quickly. In the middle of winter, we can have temps in the 40 and 50 - Fahrenheit that is.

 

[McRat]

Thanks, McRat - when I called 1010 they were concerned because so far they don't think a wider tire will fit on this rim.

If they do fit, any thoughts on the added rolling resistance of a wider tire? I mean, the stock tire is already 10" wide ha.

<- Guy on internet who has done a lot of different hobby racing, and has 5 sets of different tires for a Corvette, and has had custom one-off wheels built.

The tires are 10" wide at the carcass, not the contact patch (8.9")

Ideally, you should have 1/2" wider rim for 265's which are on paper 0.394" wider (about width of you pinky finger nail). The tire is about 1% larger in circumference and sticks out less than a 1/4" per side. It actually will resist curbing the wheels some. I often do this to my wife's car, run 10-20mm wider for some curb protection.
They said the same "too wide" thing about the Volt which comes with 215's and I ran 235's Pirelli CINTURATO P7 WITH SEAL INSIDE - SIZE: 235/45R17. They worked fine, but since they were performance self-sealing tires, I don't expect them to make it to 40,000 miles. Zero effect on range for my application. Better track performance. I have a 'metered' loop I drive, that I've done 100's of times over the years, not a noticeable difference once the tires have 2000 miles of wear on them. Tires will improve their performance when they get some wearing in. Racers shave 1/2 the tread depth off their tires before using them, Tirerack does it for about $15 a wheel.

Cliff Notes: If it were my car, I'd run them. But to play it safe, you need a wider or smaller dia rim to have tire choices. The most winter worthy 255/40-22 I can find is https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...r&autoYear=2019&autoModel=I-Pace&autoModClar= Which should have significantly better grip on ice than the Pirelli.

 

[phila]

I got 20" winter tires and 22" summer tires. I would definitely want to drive on 22" during winter conditions though, i can just imagine the rims will take a beating.

I obviously wanted to say I got 20" winter tires and 22" summer tires. I would definitely want to drive on 20" during winter conditions though, i can just imagine the rims will take a beating.

 

[sgtpeper]

Thanks for the info. I'm really considering giving that a dry. Discount tire said they would be happy to order a bunch of tires to test fit.

The link you sent for tirerack - those are summer only tires though.

 

[McRat]

Comedy? My Fat Bottom Girl (2010 Corvette ZR1) wore 335's on her rear. I could get anything from a track-only tire to an ICE/SNOW tire for it. No love for 22"s yet because DANG, the tire diameter is the same as a 1-Ton pickup and the rim is bigger than some Vocational Trucks (trash trucks, tow trucks, etc) You can actually put very heavy duty tires on an I-Pace. 80 PSI load range E. Rided like solid rubber tires, wears like iron. Very deep tread blocks.
A lot of the very fastest cars wear 18-20" rims. Crazy wide, but only 20" max.

Tires are like shoes, and they are only thing controls a car. No tires, no control. The good news is that modern all-season tires are 100% better than they were in 2000. A 2019 All Season can be superior in the dry and rain to a 2000 Summer Performance tire.

 

[McRat]

Thanks for the info. I'm really considering giving that a dry. Discount tire said they would be happy to order a bunch of tires to test fit.

The link you sent for tirerack - those are summer only tires though.

Yes, but they have more snow/water grooves and more sipes (very thin cuts to provide more gripping edges on ice).

I posted a Michelin All Season that was 10mm wider and 1% larger dia, that is most likely going to fit. But I posted the best 255 tire for winter conditions I could find as well, but it's not a M+S tire by any measure. (M+S is the lowest level that the police will consider to be a snow tire).

 

[sgtpeper]

AND now I can't get the scorpion snow tires from Canada at all - they're out of stock. Really not sure what to do for tires on this thing now for winter.

Loving the car, but I really don't need another summer only vehicle!

 

[sciencegeek]

AND now I can't get the scorpion snow tires from Canada at all - they're out of stock. Really not sure what to do for tires on this thing now for winter.

Loving the car, but I really don't need another summer only vehicle!

So out of morbid curiosity (since winter is not too much of an issue for me) I read this thread from the top just now and it seems that there is a lot of useful information provided particularly by a certain McRat ... and I'd add that *if you just invest in 18" wheels* you'll have a lot more choice!

As an analogy: I have two sets of wheels for my Touareg. One for daily use and one for offroading. One set has an all terrain tire (actually a bit bigger than spec, it looks better that way) and the other set has a mud terrain tire much bigger than spec for some more serious terrain.

You apply the same exact concept: one set of wheels for each of your two most important use cases. In your case it's for winter vs summer. One set has summer tires, the other set winter. You can get an 18" wheel set and then you'll have plenty of options for winter tires.

Yeah it'll cost you >

 

[sgtpeper]

It's more that we don't NEED dedicated snow tires where I live. We have snow, and it gets cold, but dedicated snows have been overkill in the past for me. Realistically, I just need a good set of all-season tires.

 

[sgtpeper]

I talked to 1010 tires and they said a good alternative would be to get the Continental DWS in 266 40 22. The only thing is the load rating is 106 vs the stock at 103. Anyone have thoughts on that?

 

[jsimon7777]

I talked to 1010 tires and they said a good alternative would be to get the Continental DWS in 266 40 22. The only thing is the load rating is 106 vs the stock at 103. Anyone have thoughts on that?

Stock 20s are 105V. Moving up should never be a problem. It's not like you're going from a passenger tire to a truck tire. 103 to 106 is less than 9% difference in load rating. That's nothing.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...r&autoYear=2019&autoModel=I-Pace&autoModClar=

 

[JocDoc]

AND now I can't get the scorpion snow tires from Canada at all - they're out of stock. Really not sure what to do for tires on this thing now for winter.

Loving the car, but I really don't need another summer only vehicle!

Why no just buy a set of inexpensive 20" wheels with Blizzaks or other common winter tires. Tire Rack offers deals on wheel and tire packages.