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Fast. Small. Expensive.
The Turbo version—there’s of course delicious irony in that nomenclature—features a beefy 96-kWh battery, a 160-kW (215-hp)/221-lb-ft motor up front, and a 300-kW (402-hp)/405-lb-ft motor at the rear. In launch-control mode with your left foot on the brake and your right foot on the throttle, the whiplash effect that happens when you launch flattens your eyeballs against the back of your skull while taxing your spine to nearly its breaking point. Porsche claims that just more than three seconds elapse from takeoff to 60 mph; the zero-to-125-mph acceleration time is less than 10 seconds. Once more, this is 911 Turbo territory.
The Taycan is a four-seater with just about enough space for two adults in the back, where the so-called “foot garages,” clever rectangular recesses in the floor, preclude the use of a rectangular monolithic battery pack but help accommodate long legs.
The base Taycan is rear-wheel drive only, sports an 80-kWh battery, and is powered by a choice of 240-kW (322-hp) and 280-kW (375-hp) motors. A Porsche brand ambassador who must remain nameless confirmed the contents of a document obtained by this magazine that stated the entry model—due late next year—will be priced in the low $90,000s, the 4S equipped with a 96-kWh battery pack and 320-kW (429-hp) or 360-kW (483-hp) of power will be positioned in the high $90,000s, and the Turbo will start at about $140,000.
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-ev-electric-ride-review-photos/
 

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I wanted to like it from the prototype design, but the final design is not for me. But then again I am not a fan/target of the Porsches in general. I am waiting for the Audi GTR, much more my cup of tea is design. And honestly I don’t need my eyeballs squished!
 

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I hate the term Tesla Killer, but that sounds like a P-Series killer. Under 10 second to 125? That's deep into the 10's in the quarter. Maybe 9.9.
 

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I hate the term Tesla Killer, but that sounds like a P-Series killer. Under 10 second to 125? That's deep into the 10's in the quarter. Maybe 9.9.
If I had the cash and that type of car were for me ... I'd get that over the model S in a heartbeat. But this is the uphill battle (one of them) that Tesla will have to fight. The S is in desperate need of a refresh. No wonder the ToyCan is a step up! It's the youngster on the block.
 

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I hate the term Tesla Killer, but that sounds like a P-Series killer. Under 10 second to 125? That's deep into the 10's in the quarter. Maybe 9.9.
Stock Model S Ludicrous+ 1/4 mile time is 10.64/125 mph.

I'm really interested to see how this plays out. Porsche is only selling the $140K+ Turbo edition for the first year. Only 5-6% of Model S sales are the Performance version, or 2500-3000 per year. Porsche believes they have demand for at least 20K Taycan's per year and can ramp the factory to 60K.

Porsche is more of a performance brand than Tesla and has a big home country advantage over Tesla in Germany. They sell 27K 911's worldwide per year at a $113K entry price and 18K Panameras at a $86K entry price. So will they be able to sell 7x more $140K BEV sedans than Tesla in 2020? I'm a bit skeptical.
 

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I wonder if the air suspension can lift it enough to stop regular underbody destruction. The height in the images is close to dragging on the pavement. Only four seats? I need 5 on a regular basis. I'm disappointed. Honestly I'd rather get a P3D or, better yet, a PYD 7-seater. Or another ipace.
 

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Stock Model S Ludicrous+ 1/4 mile time is 10.64/125 mph.

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In ideal conditions. Certainly not hot lapping 4 times. But [email protected] is puzzling. A much heavier AWD vehicle ran [email protected] with wifey driving. While the ET is virtually identical, and it was a mid 1.5 sixty, 5 mph on the big end is HUGE. It's not aero, the 130 passes are from a 4x4 2500HD diesel pickup with aero of a brick with a track weight of 6420 lb (HRP's scale) without driver with 1/4 tank. It even has less HP (748 HP measured at the rear tires, Tesla claims 762 HP and is lighter).
The P cars apparently give it up after the 1/8th. Porsche seems to have solved that problem.

And why I'm referring to it as a possible Tesla Killer. There have been a lot of cheaper cars that will out trap a Tesla, but until now, only Demon has been quicker and cheaper. The Porsche appears that it will be competitively priced after the full IRS rebate without VAT. And if a P car tries to fight one from a roll, it's going to be Dresden's Revenge.
 

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However... Note that "Porsche pricing" is like buying a new house:

"Would you like wooden doors? It comes with cardboard."

"Do you want a backyard or a construction debris field?"

"Did you ever want to own the house on a rainy day? You might want the full driveway and rain gutters."
 

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In ideal conditions. Certainly not hot lapping 4 times. But [email protected] is puzzling. A much heavier AWD vehicle ran [email protected] with wifey driving. While the ET is virtually identical, and it was a mid 1.5 sixty, 5 mph on the big end is HUGE. It's not aero, the 130 passes are from a 4x4 2500HD diesel pickup with aero of a brick with a track weight of 6420 lb (HRP's scale) without driver with 1/4 tank. It even has less HP (748 HP measured at the rear tires, Tesla claims 762 HP and is lighter).
The P cars apparently give it up after the 1/8th. Porsche seems to have solved that problem.
With a two speed transmission.
 

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With a two speed transmission.
The first Tesla had a two speed. Elon said it was an engineering impossibility to make one that would endure EV torque. Little did he know, we were building >1250 ftlb six speed gearboxes before the first Tesla was prototyped. Durability? Mine has over 100,000 miles including several hundred dragstrip passes at several tracks, and weighs 7,850lb.
 

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The first Tesla had a two speed. Elon said it was an engineering impossibility to make one that would endure EV torque. Little did he know, we were building >1250 ftlb six speed gearboxes before the first Tesla was prototyped. Durability? Mine has over 100,000 miles including several hundred dragstrip passes at several tracks, and weighs 7,850lb.
It was an impossibility for *Tesla* to build a two speed transmission that could handle the torque. Also, I'd imagine the strains of a two speed EV transmission are different from those of a six speed manual or automatic. No torque converter or clutch to damp the onset of torque. A greatly extended RPM range for the torque to be applied in each gear, 12000 for ipace and 18000 for at least the Model S and X. VAG has a lot more mechanical engineering prowess.

It's gonna be fun to option up the Taycan. It probably comes standard with a mono stereo.
 

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It was an impossibility for *Tesla* to build a two speed transmission that could handle the torque. Also, I'd imagine the strains of a two speed EV transmission are different from those of a six speed manual or automatic. No torque converter or clutch to damp the onset of torque. A greatly extended RPM range for the torque to be applied in each gear, 12000 for ipace and 18000 for at least the Model S and X. VAG has a lot more mechanical engineering prowess.

It's gonna be fun to option up the Taycan. It probably comes standard with a mono stereo.
I was thinking a Radio Shack Crystal Radio Kit in the glovebox. The cellphone integration is a string and two soup cans.
 

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The stock seats are board on cinder blocks. The door latches are velcro.
The original Dodge Viper wasn't that far off. No real side windows, they snapped. Not sure if had door handles. No ABS, no SC, interior was modeled after the Kenner Easy Bake Oven.
 
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