Please let us know what are they offering. Do you get much more of a trade in value than selling the vehicle through buy back? I want to know if it makes any financial sense.

My dealer gave me a brand new 24 model year loaner vehicle, I may talk to them about swapping to that...

 

As part of the H484 campaign I briefly looked into this with a dealer who had 4 iPace in inventory, 3x2024 and 1x2023. But although JLR claimed the dealer would sell them at invoice, and offering a $30K trade on my 2019HSE, the discount I could get on the 2023 was only $9K leaving a $38K gap to close. In the current stare of the EV market and depreciation I really couldn't justify that for a vehicle in warranty but with actually less features (no 360 camera for example). So I opted to get the battery replaced...being done now....

 

Just looking at the math, given the buyback/trade in value, you can look at what you can get for a 2019 and what you can get for a 2023 or '24 on the used market and look if you can get JLR and dealer to trade you out for less and flip the new car.

 

Yes, I probably could have cast the net wider, I was thinking that having four of them sitting idle on your balance sheet would make them more interested in working with JLR to make a dent. I started looking becaus I was under the impression there was not a good ETA for the battery pack. My 2019HSE has 24K miles and the toys I like so there isn't a great pressure for upgrade in my mind. Much has stayed the same with the exception of PiviPro and honestly in the loaner vehicles I have had it in, I'm not sure I like it as much....but I'm happy that some people got their deal. Not sour grapes at all. I should have my car back in the next few days.

I don't think there is an obvious answer. My FE had about 50K miles, was coming off warranty (it was purchased used and had the additional CPO) and never had the wiring harness work performed. So I gained a five year factory warranty, updated wiring harness, and slightly better designed 12V system.

Pivi Pro is a wash IMO. It is faster and I really like being able to cast turn-by-turn directions from CarPlay to the driver display. On the downside, you lose CarPlay screen real estate with the dedicated buttons along each side of the upper screen and the lower screen can't be used for infotainment. I also made a mistake and my '23 does not have the 360 camera, so that dedicated camera button on the side of the upper Pivi Pro screen only serves to mock me.

The FE also had some lux touches and I really don't miss, but it adds to the overall sense of a downgrade: no passenger side memory seat, no full leather dash, no alcanterra on the pillars.

Worst of all: No Photon Red.

I'm not regretting my choice as I got a decent deal ($25k for a "new" I Pace HSE), but it really was/is a close call. If you like your '19 and can get a new battery pack, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

 

I don't think there is an obvious answer. My FE had about 50K miles, was coming off warranty (it was purchased used and had the additional CPO) and never had the wiring harness work performed. So I gained a five year factory warranty, updated wiring harness, and slightly better designed 12V system.

Pivi Pro is a wash IMO. It is faster and I really like being able to cast turn-by-turn directions from CarPlay to the driver display. On the downside, you lose CarPlay screen real estate with the dedicated buttons along each side of the upper screen and the lower screen can't be used for infotainment. I also made a mistake and my '23 does not have the 360 camera, so that dedicated camera button on the side of the upper Pivi Pro screen only serves to mock me.

The FE also had some lux touches and I really don't miss, but it adds to the overall sense of a downgrade: no passenger side memory seat, no full leather dash, no alcanterra on the pillars.

Worst of all: No Photon Red.

I'm not regretting my choice as I got a decent deal ($25k for a "new" I Pace HSE), but it really was/is a close call. If you like your '19 and can get a new battery pack, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

For me the gap was $38K so I passed…

 

Not mental illness, just a love affair. That’s how it is with these cars. I’m certainly considering this trade as well if I can make the finances work. Major factors in my case include proximity to a couple Jaguar dealers (that aren’t just going LR), willingness to live with a loaner at times if it needs service on occasion, and a gentle CA climate that makes the most of range. YMMV as always (literally and figuratively)!

 

Is that insane? Is this just a sign of mental illness? I'm in the same boat as all y'all, but I love this vehicle / brand...I just need to park her in the garage and don't wanna worry about my life getting burned to a cinder.

The VIN I am looking at is new and at a Jag dealer. They are working on a deal with JLR atm.

Having doubled-down on the I-Pace after my 2019 was bought back after nine months of ownership with a bad battery, and buying a new 2020 that has been trouble-free, I am sympathetic to your instinct! I would go for it. The risk is soooo low. You can mitigate it by voluntarily not usually charging to 100%.

The I-Pace is an amazing car and if you have / can get a good one, it will serve you well for a long time, including the grin when you drive it.

 

I just got the 40k service on my MY22 and it’s been great! It’s a big upgrade over the first generation I paces. Pivi Pro is much more stable and responsive. And don’t have to worry about battery issues.

 

From another thread an owner of a 2023 has had four traction battery failures. It is difficult to discern if this is just an isolated incident or that the battery faults keep coming. There was an article that implied from a company statement that LG only came to grips with the issue in early 2024.

 

I'd love to see the article, but it still feels like speculation.

 

Has anyone with a 19 gotten a battery replacement? That's my preference now, the buyback isn't worth it for me.

I read that isn't an option, but I'm in a state with strong lemon laws, so I wonder if it's possible case by case

 

My 2019HSE was in the H484 campaign. I looked at a trade up but couldn’t make the math work to let me sleep at night. So battery arrived this week and should pick up the car next week. It's funny driving an ICE loaner and wondering what the "burning smell" is at the front - oh yeah radiator fan...

 

My 19 HSE has less than 40k miles and the dealer has been trying HARD to do a trade in for a 2024 (and they really want me to lease). But I just can't justify it. I got the letter saying I'll be contacted about the buy back and it does mention fair market value. Even with the dealer trade in, which was $28,000. It was still going to be about $42,000 out of pocket for the new one on the dealer lot.
It gets you excited talking about a new car, but I have had this 2019 HSE for just 3 years (1 owner, low mileage) and I really didn't plan on turning around and spending that kind of money after 3 years. After pretty much daily messages for about a month, I finally told the dealer that I wasn't interested. I'll just keep charging to only 80% and enjoy driving it around to work and back.
Love the car, love driving it every day, but why would I buy a 2024 when this one has had so many battery issues and there's not really significant changes (except for pivi pro software) in the newest model. Hoping to keep this car through the battery warranty period then go to something with newer battery technology in a couple years.

 

This may be the perfect thread to ask two relevant questions about keeping vs trading (which have been answered several times in other threads I'm sure but I'm sorry I can't keep up):

If you own a 2019 that has been trouble-free, what is the level of risk? And what is "risk," really?

Risk is battery catching fire, which presumably is higher when at a higher SoC (though we don't have empirical evidence for a relationship of SoC with risk_of_fire for the I-Pace because low numbers).

Level of risk is where you park and whether it's going to burn down anything else.

I feel that life is full of risks and your chance of killing yourself while driving the I-Pace (with a heavy foot and a grin on your face) is higher than it catching fire.

I own a 2020 that has been trouble-free, but I do know it could catch fire any day now. With a 0.001% probability (or thereabouts). I park in the driveway. And btw, what's the difference really between 2019 and 2020 (or 2021 etc)? Before one answers that question, one should consider the evidence one has for whichever answer.

 

I'm starting to have survivor's guilt over the deal that I got, but in all candor, I would have preferred to keep driving my old iPace with software-restricted charging limits over the "deals" that JLR is offering right now. My old iPace had all the kinks worked out (except the wiring harness), new 12v batteries, new tires, and a better color. The lower range on restricted charging was not a problem for me. Like sciencegeek, the chance of fire isn't so high that I would not take the risk.

I know that's easy for me to say as I drive off in my subsidized '23, but it's true.

 

I traded in a very good 2020 for a 2023 prior to all the battery issues coming to light. There's no guaranty that the newer cars have more reliable batteries after having had to replace 4 modules now in the 2023 - number 30 was done twice. Im told by the dealer though that its safe to park inside.

 

All I can say is don’t underestimate the value of a bumper-to-bumper and battery warranty reset with a new model. The ’23 is missing some things I really liked, but having a new warranty more than makes up for it.