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getting back the sort of credits we used to have will get harder with the economic playground we have right now, I wouldn't bank on it.
however, this should be considered when looking for employment and the packages they make available. I already know someone that gets kickbacks from their employer for driving an EV.
 

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The law may need some change but I doubt this is the right answer and have doubts it will get out of committee and on the floor to vote.
Worst case I see a phase out. I am undecided if I would cancel. This is really about the car more than the tax credit to me.
 

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I'm in favor of capping the cost of the car you'll be able to get a rebate on as well as continuing the phase out. As long as I get my car first. ;)
 

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Oil company sponsored jackass wants to keep Americans addicted to oil. Yep. News.
Don't you drive cars made by a company owned 5% by the Saudi government who Elon Musk was bragging about was going to buy Tesla just a few weeks ago--the same entity that just murdered a US journalist? Asking for a friend....
 

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Full text is now listed. I cannot imagine the user fee will work as the tax would seem to be set to an equivalent of similar gas/diesel fueled vehicles regardless of miles driven. Not very Republican to tax high and low users the same. Nor does this account for the increased energy efficiency of an EV. Just cannot imagine this is going anywhere.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/3559/text
 

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https://electrek.co/2018/10/10/republican-bill-end-federal-tax-credit-for-electric-car/


If this happens I haven't taken delivery, I will absolutely cancel my order. I think we should all reach out to our dealers and tell them this so they in turn put pressure on JLR to prioritize all US orders to get them in this year.
Since this is an American tax credit, why reward Toyota, Honda, VW, and Kia for delaying EV sales to keep their credits. Toyota has even said they will not make EVs until they are forced to.
Major American EV producers, Tesla and General Motors are losing their credit soon because they started earlier and offered better products and spent more on R&D. The rest just have to copy them and enjoy the market they created.

It is not in America's best interest to make import cars $7500 cheaper than domestic cars.
 

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The purpose isn't to reward manufacturers. The purpose is to push more efficient electric vehicles that remove pollution from where people live and, probably, reduce overall pollution. I'm pretty sure that Toyota, Honda, and the like produce most of their American market cars in American factories, built by American workers.
 

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The purpose isn't to reward manufacturers. The purpose is to push more efficient electric vehicles that remove pollution from where people live and, probably, reduce overall pollution. I'm pretty sure that Toyota, Honda, and the like produce most of their American market cars in American factories, built by American workers.
Not the 'green' cars. Those are made in Japan. See Prius, Mirai, and Clarity for more information.

If you want to reduce air pollution a mandate for GDI and LRR tires would do more than all the EV/EREV/Hybrids on the road today by a wide margin.

But I did write the uninformed Senator John Barrasso requesting he do his homework. Electromotive propulsion will replace internal combustion just like 10-speed digital automatic transmissions replaced 2 speed non-syncro manual crash box transmissions. Electromotive propulsion is a superior way to move a ship, a train, a heavy earth mover, and a road vehicle. So they will change over, just like radials replaced bias-ply tires. Technology improves, and people will demand it.
 

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And don't forget the 20% tariff on European cars that your president is contemplating!
The true effective tariff on American cars going Europe is ~57% last I checked. They say it's 20%, but go price a Camaro or Corvette on the French or German site.
Euro cars in America are often cheaper than they are in Europe. We do have a 5% tariff though.
 

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The true effective tariff on American cars going Europe is ~57% last I checked.
Can you elaborate?

They say it's 20%, but go price a Camaro or Corvette on the French or German site.
That's not because Chevy needs to make more profit in Europe per vehicle given the low sales numbers?

Euro cars in America are often cheaper than they are in Europe.
That's marketing though isn't it? ... the American market is so important to Euro manufacturers that they compete much more aggressively with each other, with the Japanese, and the Americans ...
 

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That's not because Chevy needs to make more profit in Europe per vehicle given the low sales numbers?



That's marketing though isn't it? ... the American market is so important to Euro manufacturers that they compete much more aggressively with each other, with the Japanese, and the Americans ...
Let me think... How about a popular American built car in Europe (there are so very few)? Ford Mustang GT 5.0L manual trans stripped? $55,400 in France. In US - $35,400 MSRP, so 56.5% markup. Trivia, a French Mustang costs the same as a US Corvette Stingray.

It's been this way since the founding of the EU. American cars are fashion icons for Europeans. They are rare and pricey for what you get.
A Grand Sport Corvette (460hp) in Europe costs what a ZR1 Corvette (755HP + >200mph) does in the US.

Because of this, both GM and Ford have pretty much stopped exporting to Europe and closed most Euro factories. Japan is no better.
 
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