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Looks like my Eagles are running low, hence considering options.
Wanted to go wider, but front suspension seemingly won't accept anything more than 255 (on 20") without spacers which I prefer not to, especially already lowered.
So out of 255/50R20 with appropriate load rating, the selection of not outrageously pricey performance tires of proven brands is not that big:
  • same Goodyear Eagle Sport which I think could have better traction;
  • Continental DWS 06 Plus which looks pretty great but still $300 a piece (and I've replaced 3 tires in past year due to punctures);
  • maybe some Pirellis (Scorpion Zero ?).
Let me folks know if I'm missing anything in respect to the size (any easy way of going wider ?), and what you would pick brand / model-wise.
 

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I'm not ready for tires yet, but planning ahead I was also considering going with the 255/50R20 over the 245/50. Tire selection is much better with the 255, and I don't really like the Goodyear Eagles. I think the Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S Plus or the DWS06 Plus would be the best options. I usually prefer Michelins, and their Premier LTX DT might be pretty good too. Any of those 3 options should be an improvement over the Eagles, but if I needed a set of tires today I'd probably go for the DWS06 Plus. They're supposed to be pretty good tires, but I've never owned a set. I wish Michelin made a Pilot Sport A/S 4 in this size. That series was my tire of choice for my previous 2 vehicles.
 

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I went for the Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season in 255/50R20. Could not be happier.

They are very quiet and super smooth. And they have a very low rolling resistance. To my measurements they cut down my consumption with about 2.5kWh for 100 miles compared to the OEM Good Years Eagle F1 SUV. That is a pretty spectacular difference.

They offer good grip. I did not have a chance to test them in proper snow/ice winter conditions, but i expect them to be fine.
 

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Hello!

Don't be fooled, 255/50/R20 is a relatively common size for SUVs, light trucks or crossovers.

I would consult with your local specialist tire/rim shop and see what your local supplier can get. There are many options in this size that will fit your car at many price points. I live in Canada, where we supposedly have a narrower market and even here there is a lot to choose from. It only takes a few days to order in a set that you want.

I am not sure what you mean by proven brands but you can do much better than Goodyear Eagles. I would also recommend against anything Pirelli. I've used both Scorpion Zero and Verdes and they are crap from my experience.

Consider Touring, Performance or Extreme tires as a start based on your driving style, where you live and the weather conditions. Other brands like Bridgestone, Michelin, General, Cooper as well as Falken, Toyo, Yokohama, Nitto, Kumho etc make tires in these various 'trim levels' that will fit. ie. Michelin has the Premiere LTX or the Latitude lines.

Balance all of this against your budget and then proceed to BUY THE BEST TIRE YOU CAN AFFORD.
 

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Same feeling about Pirelli tires. I've had multiple sets (multiple cars) and each set wore out very quickly. It was almost like I could see the tread disappearing after each trip. Ok, it wasn't that bad, but I never got anywhere close to the rated lifespan.
 

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I did a lot of research for tires on my previous Cayenne. Ended up going with pirelli scorpion verde all season. Had them for 6 months before trading the car in. After the first few weeks and they wore in they were perfect. Didn’t get a chance to see how worn they were. On other forums the pirelli scorpion verde get high marks for ride quality, road nose, and handling.
 

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Hi DCDrive, just went through this. Here's what I found:

My car is a 2019 HSE with adaptive suspension and had the stock Goodyear Eagles. Almost returned the car several times over the past 2 years because my girlfriend was getting a headache and nausea from the bouncy ride slapping the headrest into her head. We found the most comfortable drive setting was not Comfort, but Dynamic, though the car always felt uncoupled and bouncy.

Fortunately, after 23,000 mi my Goodyear Eagles were down to the wear bars. Looked around for replacements and The Tire Rack had virtually othing available in my stock 245 50 20 size for the Z speed and weight ratings.

Instead, I went with a solution that was suggested somewhere else in this forum, the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 Plus tires in the 255 50 ZR20 size. Was a little concerned about rub but install them and have had no problems. Tested full lock in full off-road raised height and full lowered heights and on pitchy, off camber, twisty mountain roads where I live in Sonoma, California.

The car is transformed. The change in driving and ride experience is remarkable. Road noise is substantially reduced, and cabin environment is much quieter. Steering is crisper and more precise at all speeds. Performance in a chicane (the moose test) is dramatically better with these Continentals, The side walls have almost no flex and body roll is significantly reduced. I'm now driving the car in Comfort mode, rather than Dynamic mode because Dynamic mode is almost too responsive with passengers onboard. I'd probably reserve that setting for the track or when I'm driving solo and feeling frisky.

Sadly, it hasn't rained since I put them on so I haven't tested them in the rain or snow but review data shows them to be at the top of the pack.

The Tire Rack said that these are the top rated tire of all tires they sell in the z-rated ultra high performance category. They were cautious about the fit, but these Contis have proven to be the perfect tire for this car. No data yet on wear, but based on all other factors, I highly recommend these tires.

Perhaps the most important factor? My girlfriend now tells me she loves the car... :)
 

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Sounds like Pirelli is quite controversial option. To its defense though, high grip and longevity are mutually exclusive as a norm. Goodyear seemingly tried to sit on two chairs, and result is - noise and very average grip.
BTW Contis DWS have same tread life rating (56K) yet excellent reviews for grip, noise and handling. Wondering how they did it. I think I'm getting them.

General, Cooper as well as ... Toyo, ... Nitto, Kumho
No, thanks.
Falken RT series would be interesting to try though.

after 23,000 mi my Goodyear Eagles were down to the wear bars
I'm at 21K, and little above the bars. So pretty much identical

The Tire Rack said that these are the top rated tire of all tires they sell in the z-rated ultra high performance category
I don't even see Z anymore, mainly V-W-Y, although even H would be OK per my view.
TireRack is known for splitting the tires into myriad categories, so that pretty much every decent tire is on top of its own group. But yes, that's where I'm looking to order anyway :LOL:
 

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To state that "Pirelli's wear quickly" is a bit daft.
I've had many sets over time (and even more non-Pirelli's). Their sportier tires wear quickly, as you should expect. But the Scorpion Verde's for instance on our Discovery lasted over 65000 miles, an all time record.
 

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To state that "Pirelli's wear quickly" is a bit daft.
I've had many sets over time (and even more non-Pirelli's). Their sportier tires wear quickly, as you should expect. But the Scorpion Verde's for instance on our Discovery lasted over 65000 miles, an all time record.
How about I say, in my case, Pirelli's wear quickly. I'm simply stating my experience with them. Glad yours is better.
 

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How about I say, in my case, Pirelli's wear quickly. I'm simply stating my experience with them. Glad yours is better.
Which is what I said too. They are fine until they are not and they drop off real quick when they are done. I have found they dont do well in colder temperatures and get very hard in non-ideal temperatures so there is no room for error. I find they categorically wear quickly and every set I have had has failed (explosively) due to wear. Not to mention the extremely annoying howl the tires make when they are low in tread. I have also never ever gotten close to the manufacturer's recommended mileage on them..

I am glad people out there have good experiences because that has not been mine.

I am running Bridgestone BlizzaK dvs-1 for my winter set and a set of Nittos for my summer. The Nittos are amazing so far.
 

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No, thanks.
Falken RT series would be interesting to try though.

I have a set of RT660 on my 2000 lb NA Miata and they’re awesome — sticks like glue and progressive at the limit. However, they do wear very fast, based on my autox experience. Plus is they are relatively inexpensive compared to comparable UHP summer tires.
 

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Have been using Continental DWS06 on every vehicle since 2015, and am running 265/40 R22 of the DWS06+ on my IPace. If you live in an area that gets a lot of annual rainfall, or snowfall -- these are your tires!
I’m running the same. Do you notice a thrumming resonance on coarse asphalt? They are nice and quiet on smooth roads. Mine are new and not sure if they just need to wear in a bit.
 

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I’m running the same. Do you notice a thrumming resonance on coarse asphalt? They are nice and quiet on smooth roads. Mine are new and not sure if they just need to wear in a bit.
I live in SE Michigan, there are no smooth roads. I didn't find the road noise much different than the stock shoes, what psi are you running? I've keep mine around 35psi
 

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Which ones, what size ?
NT 420V in 265/40/R22 106v on a 22" aftermarket wheel. See the pic below. I love how it looks.


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My Volvo had 275/35/R22, which looked cool but the ride was rough to say the least so a 40 sidewall is the absolute limit for me. It would be madness running a 35 sidewall on this car. The Jag came with 255/40/R22 Pirellis on the stock 5069 wheel and I wanted to upgrade to the 265 width with my new package.

In my experience 265/40/R22 is the best balance between grip and sidewall in my opinion for this car. My aftermarket wheel was also lighter than the stock 5069 22" wheel, so the unsprung weight is also lower. Each wheel is noticeably lighter to carry and so the difference in the car is also noticeable... dare I say improved.
 
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