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I'm thinking of buying it. I'm not entirely sure how long it's been parked, but it sat around for a long time before it was registered (just a few months ago).

I'm told that sitting idle degrades the remaining life.

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That got me thinking, since my I-Pace is sitting at the dealer waiting for 1 replacement cell, then how good are the
remaining cells after sitting for months?
 

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Apparently the car has been in the hands of the dealer since summer 2019.

The odometer is at 256 km (159 miles).

Is there a reliable battery test that the dealer could do to address my concerns?
 

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Dealer can do a cell state of health check for the traction battery for each cell. And the 12v battery too.
It would be important to have reading of charge at 100% for the battery in kWh.
If that can't be shown, then think twice.
 

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You can ask dealer to pull battery state of health report through Pathfinder. There are 36 cells in traction battery. See below the screenshots of the reports I got from the dealer before purchasing our 2020 SE.

Battery SOH report 4.jpg Battery SOH report 2.jpg Battery SOH report 1.jpg Battery SOH report 3.jpg

I would also ask the dealer if the warranty (first service date) has already started.
 

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The passing of time does induce some degradation. It could be less than any other 2020 in existence...

If, however, the car was stored with a fully charged battery, degradation might be considerable...

The safe solution will indeed be to have the dealer draw up a formal SoH report.
 

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You can ask dealer to pull battery state of health report through Pathfinder. There are 36 cells in traction battery. See below the screenshots of the reports I got from the dealer before purchasing our 2020 SE.

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I would also ask the dealer if the warranty (first service date) has already started.
That's perfect, thanks.

I'd assumed that there was such a testing program, but when I asked the dealer (who says that he's an "EV specialist") he seemed uncertain... saying that it might be possible to test batteries...

But he did not offer to give me any assurance by having the batteries tested prior to my taking delivery.

He seems to think that "Trust me!" is all the assurance that I need.

I like the car. Don't like the salesman one bit.

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Well, the car is probably fantastic and none of this is likely necessary, but listen to that voice and don't do a **** thing until you get that battery health report. Honestly, who has heard of an EV with a full battery at a dealership? 19/20 cars have empty tanks there.
 

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Apparently the car has been in the hands of the dealer since summer 2019.

The odometer is at 256 km (159 miles).

Is there a reliable battery test that the dealer could do to address my concerns?
in this case, the 8 yrs warranty for the battery is starting to count from 2019 or when you purchase it?
 

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in this case, the 8 yrs warranty for the battery is starting to count from 2019 or when you purchase it?
The salesman tells me that it was "officially registered with head office" in March of this year, implying that the warranty started counting down at that time and has seven-and-a-half years left.
 

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You can ask dealer to pull battery state of health report through Pathfinder. There are 36 cells in traction battery. See below the screenshots of the reports I got from the dealer before purchasing our 2020 SE.

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I would also ask the dealer if the warranty (first service date) has already started.
I would assume that your car had spent less time in the showroom than the one(s) I am looking at. I'm trying to determine how much degradation would be acceptable in a car which has been discounted by 20%...
 

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Warranty is only as good if it can be covered and parts are available and techs that can do the job.
Knowing how much is in the "tank" is important and not be covered up by the idea of a
warranty.
Things are probably fine, but how would you like to drive home a new I-Pace and only get 50 miles range, and
then end up back at the dealer to start a warranty claim.
You can't drive a piece of paper.
 

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I would assume that your car had spent less time in the showroom than the one(s) I am looking at. I'm trying to determine how much degradation would be acceptable in a car which has been discounted by 20%...
Indeed, our I-Pace is one of the late 2020 builds (SADHC2S1XL1F87xxx). It was in dealer inventory only for a few months before we purchased it.

Based on what I read on this forum, you should not have any concern with the battery health as long as SoH shows close to mid 90% (>~92%).

Some of the owners reported here SoH increasing from low 90% (at the time of purchase) to close to 100% after a few slow (L1/L2) charges.

Jaguar's battery has one of the better cooling systems hence the battery degradation over time is significantly lower (say compared to Tesla).

For added piece of mind, I-Pace's battery is covered by 8 year warranty.

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Indeed, our I-Pace is one of the late 2020 builds (SADHC2S1XL1F87xxx). It was in dealer inventory only for a few months before we purchased it.

Based on what I read on this forum, you should not have any concern with the battery health as long as SoH shows close to mid 90% (>~92%).

Some of the owners reported here that SoH increasing from low 90% (at the time of purchase) to close to 100% after a few slow (L1/L2) charges.

Jaguar's battery has one of the better cooling systems hence the battery degradation over time is significantly lower (say compared to Tesla).

For added piece of mind, I-Pace's battery is covered by 8 year warranty.

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Thanks much.
 

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Out of the blue... Watt Cat reported my battery capacity at 87kWh!! after a recent level 2 charge in my garage. Best results ever and I've been driving my 2019 HSE since Nov 2019.

Consumption driving 30-50km/hr around town is down around 17.5 kWh/100km and GOM estimates range at 450km.

My last charge got me 220km before the tank showed 50% SOC.

Just bragging a bit.... :)

I guess my point is that the total capacity of an EV battery is a somewhat fluid thing and after nearly 2 years of use, my car does not seem to be showing much degradation.
 

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Average ambient temperature over the course of a couple of days, which translates to average battery operating temperature unless you're on a road trip, makes a huge difference for day to day readings. I'm currently at >260 mile range driving mostly around town, with AC on 50% of the time and always in dynamic mode. Why is the range so high? (Not GoM, btw, but actual range)? Because it's warm and I don't go fast around town. In (mild CA) winter it's considerably less, and on fast freeway roadtrips it's also much less.

And yes, WattCat currently reports 86kWh at 100% SoC; and the OBD reading, which includes the top buffer I think, is at 82kWh, which is also at the high end. That's battery temperature driven by the current mild/warm weather.
 
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