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Question on NEMA adapters

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We travel often to Airbnb and the like, and I’d like to be able to charge from electric dryer or stove outlets when we’re on the road

I purchased this Mustart EVSE for travel purposes which has a NEMA 6-20 plug:

do you guys know if anyone makes an adapter that will work with all 4 outlet types? By all 4, I’m referring both the old and new (3-prong and 4-prong) dryer and stove outlets?

Or, if I need to buy each one separately, do you happen to know the NEMA designations for each of these?

thanks all!
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You'll need separate plug adapters, one for each kind you want to adapt to.
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Thanks! Does anyone happen to know the NEMA designations for each of them? This is a surprisingly difficult thing to find a clear answer for online
NEMA 10-30 is old dryer style 30A
NEMA 14-30 is new dryer style 30A
NEMA 14-50 is typical of 40A service

RV sites, big box home centers and hardware stores sell various adapters, as well as the usual big marketplace sites. You have to know what combination of plu and socket you need.

That unit you got isn't much better than what comes with the car.
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NEMA 10-30 is old dryer style 30A
NEMA 14-30 is new dryer style 30A
NEMA 14-50 is typical of 40A service

RV sites, big box home centers and hardware stores sell various adapters, as well as the usual big marketplace sites. You have to know what combination of plu and socket you need.

That unit you got isn't much better than what comes with the car.
thanks! Isn’t the one that came with the car level 1 only? In my experience, that one added 3mph while the one I bought added 12mph. That’s a huge difference in my book!

to be clear - I do have a 40amp Mustart for home charging. I just wanted something more flexible for on the go - so the Mustart 16amp seemed to fit the bill because it works with L1 and various types of lower-amperage L2 outlets. Am I mistaken? I sold the JLR one on eBay for basically the same price as the Mustart 16amp, so in my mind it’s essentially a free upgrade as far as a travel / emergency charger.

…this might all be pretty insignificant for others, for us it matters because of how often we’re driving 2-3 hours and then staying either with friends or at an Airbnb, so I’ve found that an overnight charge on a dryer plug (or sometimes even L1 if the drive isn’t too far) often means you can skip DC fast charging altogether.
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I charged with a 240v 16amp EVSE for two years. It is plenty fast for overnight charging driving 1,000 miles per month. It is more than 3 times faster than the 120v 10 amp one that comes with the I-pace. We now use a 20 amp charger.
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The one that comes with the car is L1 and slow. A 16amp L2 charger is much better than a 10 amp L1. 120 v x 10 a = 1200 w. 240 v x 16 a = 3840 w. 3840 / 1200 = 3.2 times faster. Your voltage will vary. Most of the time, 16 a L2 is plenty.
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I charged with a 240v 16amp EVSE for two years. It is plenty fast for overnight charging driving 1,000 miles per month. It is more than 3 times faster than the 120v 10 amp one that comes with the I-pace. We now use a 20 amp charger.
I'm still charging with the "dumb" 16 amp Clipper Creek charger that came with the old Chevy Volt. It won't take the battery from flat to full overnight, but it makes it easy to manage the SOC so I stay in 40% to 80% range.

In my case, a full charge will take a little under 23 hours. I use the same charger at our place on the coast using an adapter for the dryer outlet.
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The newer I paces come with L1 10A charger. It can’t really do anything useful

Many US homes have 20A garage sockets, and the OEM chargers can’t even use those fully, lol.
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