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I would be interested in what you finaly decide, snowflake. I honestly don’t see anything out there that gives me the thrill of the iPACE, and the frugal part of me doesnt want to she’ll put for a new car. I really still love the iPACE; just hate the issues it has had (for me both a battery and windshield).

second question, did you say anything to Morley to make sure you got the California lemon law valuation?

Does anyone who has been contacted by Morley know how long it takes. JLR verified my info a month ago, but Morley hasn’t reached out yet. I’m more than happy for them to take their sweet time, and indeed would prefer it if this dragged out through August, but I also don’t want to fall through the cracks.
 
Should take about 5 weeks after you have sent copies of the documents they need. Buy another newer IPace as you like them so much. Have them change out the 12Volt battery if it’s more than a year old and preferably get a CPO car. Ours is good through 2029 With the balance of the factory warranty and then the CPO kicks in.
 
I haven’t gotten to the “send documents they need” phase. Basically, mid-April I got a call from JLR asking to confirm my info and telling me to expect to be contacted about the buyback offer. That has not happened yet.

WRT newer iPACEs, when did the entertainment hardware get upgraded? Really, it‘s the only thing that bothers me about my existing car.

I would definitely get a CPO car or extended warranty. I like to keep my cars about 10 years, and I think I’d be sweating a major breakdown after the warranty expires.
 
2021 plus for the newer infotainment Plus a host of other smaller mechanical and electrical updates also. Newer cars are very different than the 2019’s in the way they drive and hopefully most of the bugs are sorted out also.
 
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I would be interested in what you finaly decide, snowflake. I honestly don’t see anything out there that gives me the thrill of the iPACE, and the frugal part of me doesnt want to she’ll put for a new car. I really still love the iPACE; just hate the issues it has had (for me both a battery and windshield).

second question, did you say anything to Morley to make sure you got the California lemon law valuation?

Does anyone who has been contacted by Morley know how long it takes. JLR verified my info a month ago, but Morley hasn’t reached out yet. I’m more than happy for them to take their sweet time, and indeed would prefer it if this dragged out through August, but I also don’t want to fall through the cracks.
Been sick. Haven't moved on anything. Did like what I read about the tiny, AWD Volvo EV. Good sale price. Poor lease price, though. Also, we have the ipace still, we have four cars still, and even though the kids are coming home this summer, the kids will be alone as wife and I will travel, so... don't need a car now. What will be up with all this tariff and EV law nonsense? No idea. Come August, we'll probably need a four car. However, my parents may buy one as a grad gift for my daughter, and getting them to learn stick has been a disaster for one of our four cars. Their brains are incapable of doing stick, it seems.

I just said that the offer is unacceptable. Then the Morley rep said she could try the California buyback stuff but she needed the back of the sales contract.

Should take about 5 weeks after you have sent copies of the documents they need. Buy another newer IPace as you like them so much. Have them change out the 12Volt battery if it’s more than a year old and preferably get a CPO car. Ours is good through 2029 With the balance of the factory warranty and then the CPO kicks in.
Morley rep said 3-4 weeks to me. 13 days ago.

I haven’t gotten to the “send documents they need” phase. Basically, mid-April I got a call from JLR asking to confirm my info and telling me to expect to be contacted about the buyback offer. That has not happened yet.

WRT newer iPACEs, when did the entertainment hardware get upgraded? Really, it‘s the only thing that bothers me about my existing car.

I would definitely get a CPO car or extended warranty. I like to keep my cars about 10 years, and I think I’d be sweating a major breakdown after the warranty expires.
2022 for the new infotainment, IIRC. I don't mind the old infotainment at all. One, maybe two, people have said that the 2022 and later also have better suspension and quieter motors. I've no idea if this is true. Anybody?

We planned on keeping the car. Then all this happened. Xcelerate was good to deal with. I would use them again. A newer I-Pace is an option, but I love the Photon Red, and I don't think the car looks nearly as striking in other colors. The Volvo EX30 comes in bright yellow. I haven't looked at one in person or driven one. Seems legit. Though it is a bit wide.
 
Thanks @Snowflake. We find ourselves in a remarkably similar situation. We have three cars (and a fourth is with our son in college). My daughter is headed off to college in New York City in the fall, so if this drags on through the summer, I‘ll probably just drive her car (Tesla model 3) that we got from my parents when they got a newer car. I don’t love it, but the car is fit for purpose, so I will probably use it until my youngest daughter is old enough to drive in a couple years.

The infotainment is a mild annoyance. I just wish it started up faster. Also, every once in a while it just flat out fails to turn on and I have to pull the car over, turn the “ignition” off an on again (or deal with not having music or AC). My bigger concern is around reliability or lack thereof, so glad to hear that you had a good experience with Xcelerate.

I had a godawful experience with the Volvo dealership the last time I was looking for cars. The salesman was literally clipping his fingernails instead of helping us. Then again, we were asking about an electric car before they were available, but come on, he could have at least shown me the ICE XC40.

Fun to daydream about new cars, but I’ll probably punt until we again have more drivers than cars.
 
I love the Photon Red, and I don't think the car looks nearly as striking in other colors.
Photon Red does have a down side. I find that all too often I am holding up the fast food drive thru lane answering questions about the car. "Love the color" is almost always the first thing said.
 
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If only they had Santorum off-white.
 
WRT newer iPACEs, when did the entertainment hardware get upgraded? Really, it‘s the only thing that bothers me about my existing car.
2022. Yes, Pivi Pro is a major upgrade over ICTP, more responsive and less glitchy. Personally, I am thrilled so far with the new 2024 I leased to replace my 2019. The only things that seem “dated” compared to newer rivals are overall range and DC fast charging speed, which don’t affect my enjoyment 99% of the time as a daily driver.

Three years from now, I expect newer technology to make these cars look obsolete and will likely want something else; if not, I can buy it for the residual and still enjoy two more years under factory warranty. (I wouldn’t own these without some kind of warranty coverage.) I had previously bought an extended warranty for the 2019, but never had need to make any claims before the buyback.
 
After spending more time with Pivi Pro, I'll say it is pretty much a wash w/r/t Touch Duo Pro. Pivi is faster, and I do really like the ability to cast turn-by-turn directions to the driver display while having the trip overview on the main display, but you lose functionality with the lower screen (it's climate and seats only), and you lose some CarPlay real estate on the upper screen for buttons that are rarely used. I would not let the infotainment be a major factor in this decision.

The car drives very similarly to the original, and I can't say that any differences are not related to going from 20" to 22" wheels. I kind of wish I had told them to switch out the wheels because the 20" with beefier Contis definitely had a smoother ride.

My thinking has not changed: If my Photon Red FE had the wiring harness repair, I would have taken the new battery pack that was offered to me (I know that's not an option now). Even with a good deal on the replacement I Pace ($25K out the door) and a fresh five-year factory warranty and a dealer service dept. that I have a good relationship with, it was a close call, and I still feel that way.

All that said, I really enjoy this car and I'm glad that I found a way to keep driving an I Pace. There isn't much out there that I've driven that I like better; certainly nothing in the price range.
 
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The car drives very similarly to the original, and I can't say that any differences are not related to going from 20" to 22" wheels. I kind of wish I had told them to switch out the wheels because the 20" with beefier Contis definitely had a smoother ride.
Quieter motors? That was another claim.

Looks like I'll still have my stock 20"s when this is all said and done. For sale, cheap!
 
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The wife tells me today that she wants another I-Pace. I've been sick for over a week, so we haven't gone shopping, and this week is super busy. Next week, I will hopefully be up to looking at cars again.
 
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