One Foot Driving and Rolling backwards?

I had creep off as well but the car stopped too abruptly for me. I put the max regen and creep back on and still do 95% one pedal driving, but it's my first all electric car and I dont know any different. electro

McRat said:

I test drove an i-Pace for the first time.
While the regen was strong, it seemed to kick off at 1-2mph using the Creep Off, and Max Regen settings.
It would come to a complete stop, but not like the Bolt.
And sometimes it would roll backwards in D when stopped. Sometime it caught itself, other times it didn't.

Any user input on this?

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mine does roll backwards and will not stop unless the incline does or I apply the brake.

It also rolls forward indefinitely, if there's a downward incline (i.e., not necessarily backward). I test drove the other day, and the I-Pace never came to a full stop without using the brake pedal, even with high regen and creep off.

The Bolt's true one-pedal driving is far superior. I can't imagine why Jaguar did it this way.

What bugged me was reporters saying it had one-foot driving. Did JLR change it?

I doubt they changed, it was probably just vague/imprecise reporting. Tesla also claims 'one-foot driving', even though their approach is even worse than Jaguar's - the Tesla regen cuts out completely somewhere around 6 mph.

I did not test hill-hold which all of our other cars have. Does the i-Pace hill-hold? That is, when you are on an incline, does it apply the brakes automatically when you stop? Even some motorcycles have this now.

Yes, but only if you use the brakes. This is from the owner's manual:

BRAKE HOLD

Brake hold automatically activates when using the brakes to bring the vehicle to a stop on an incline. The feature operates in Drive (D) and Reverse (R), holding the brakes on until the accelerator pedal is applied. As the accelerator pedal is applied, the system automatically releases the brakes for a smooth pull away.

phil said:

It also rolls forward indefinitely, if there's a downward incline (i.e., not necessarily backward). I test drove the other day, and the I-Pace never came to a full stop without using the brake pedal, even with high regen and creep off.

The Bolt's true one-pedal driving is far superior. I can't imagine why Jaguar did it this way.

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I have not noticed it rolling forward, only backward. Not saying it won't do it, just that I haven't experienced it.

phil said:

Yes, but only if you use the brakes. This is from the owner's manual:

BRAKE HOLD

Brake hold automatically activates when using the brakes to bring the vehicle to a stop on an incline. The feature operates in Drive (D) and Reverse (R), holding the brakes on until the accelerator pedal is applied. As the accelerator pedal is applied, the system automatically releases the brakes for a smooth pull away.

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My 2018 will hold when stopped on an upward slope but NOT when the slope is downward. This is ridiculous. I.e. Our current and past Mercedes' had a similar "Hold" function that kept the vehicles stationary until the accelerators were depressed, regardless of the direction of the slope. It seems this dual function should be nothing more than a software adjustment buy my requests to Jaguar regarding this have fallen on deaf ears. Typical Jag Customer Satisfaction!

It holds on an incline when in D, and on a decline when in R.

It makes sense to me to not hold then gravity pulls in the same direction as the vehicle transmission. It's a safety thing.

In my experience, the car will hold on an incline, but only when it first stopped completely. It will show "Ready" then. Easiest is briefly tapping the brakes when you're kind off stopped.

The issue I have is although when the "Ready" light is illuminated the vehicle WILL hold on an incline but will NOT hold when the vehicle is on a decline. I.e. Going uphill it WILL hold; going downhill it will NOT. Many (most?) other vehicles WILL hold on both an incline and a decline, which I feel is the way I-Pace's should function.

Josephus said:

The issue I have is although when the "Ready" light is illuminated the vehicle WILL hold on an incline but will NOT hold when the vehicle is on a decline. I.e. Going uphill it WILL hold; going downhill it will NOT. Many (most?) other vehicles WILL hold on both an incline and a decline, which I feel is the way I-Pace's should function.

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Yeah, there has been a lot of comment on this ever since the IPace release. It WILL hold both ways. Unfortunately, not like most other cars. It will hold from rolling back, but not forward, IF the car is in drive. It will hold from rolling forward, but not back. if the car is in reverse. Someone evidently thought this was a good idea. After all, no one ever stops while facing downhill going forward...

Golflaw said:

Yeah, there has been a lot of comment on this ever since the IPace release. It WILL hold both ways. Unfortunately, not like most other cars. It will hold from rolling back, but not forward, IF the car is in drive. It will hold from rolling forward, but not back. if the car is in reverse. Someone evidently thought this was a good idea. After all, no one ever stops while facing downhill going forward...

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Maybe the Greater Dallas streets are unique because we have lots of traffic lights and stop signs that are located facing downward slopes. And it's a true convenience to be able to depress the brake peddle once and be held in place until the light changes or leading traffic moves. I'm spoiled that our current and past Mercedes have, and had, that feature.

Maybe the way to think about it is that the i-Pace just does not have a brake auto-hold feature at all.

In other cars (I know Volvos and Audis work this way from personal experience) there is a switch (labeled (A) near the parking brake switch) to turn auto brake hold on and off. When it's on, it behaves as Josephus and others would want: the car is held while stopped regardless of its orientation with respect to gravity. When it's off though, a separate "hill start assist" feature remains active. In that situation those cars behave like the i-Pace and only hold their brakes against an incline, but will not do so on level ground or a decline.

The i-Pace has permanently enabled hill start assist, but does not have a brake auto hold feature.

I wonder why the Land Rover and the Jaguar E-Pace and F-Pace have a "Hold" function which, for example, after stopping at a traffic light and pressing the brake, will hold the vehicle from rolling either uphill or downhill, but the I-Pace has a "Ready" function that only holds the vehicle in place when heading uphill? Seems like a strange oversight. Our previous XJL had the "Hold" function as does our current and prior Mercedes. (?). Hmmmmm?

The I-pace is not built by JLR but is instead assembled by Magna in Austria, and AFAIK Magna also did some/all of the drivetrain engineering. My best guess is that this difference between the I-pace and the other JLR vehicles you mentioned is due to this difference in provenance.

kkemp said:

The I-pace is not built by JLR but is instead assembled by Magna in Austria, and AFAIK Magna also did some/all of the drivetrain engineering. My best guess is that this difference between the I-pace and the other JLR vehicles you mentioned is due to this difference in provenance.

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Magna builds the E-pace at the same facility too.

As shown above Pivi Pro cars have options the early cars don't.