[Proxy]

Reports are out that Tesla has opened a few Superchargers with the CCS “magic dock” and we need a volunteer to see if it will charge an Ipace. This could be a game changer for the LA to Phoenix route in an Ipace if they installed those special superchargers adapters on the ones along the route.

Edit: It looks like one near Santa Cruz California is also available for Non-Tesla.

 

[Meldev##44]

I don't think they are operational yet.
But someone with an I-Pace could drive by and see if the cables will reach the charge port on the car.

 

[usarcher]

I don't think they are operational yet.
But someone with an I-Pace could drive by and see if the cables will reach the charge port on the car.

There are already videos surfacing of a Rivian charging and a Tesla using the CCS adaptor along with the magic dock to charge so they are actually working as of a couple hours ago. The big question is will the cable reach if pulling straight in for the I-Pace.

There was a video from EU when those chargers opened up last year but the person was parked to the side of the charger not in an actual spot.

 

[Proxy]

“Journalists” are reporting it online and my Tesla app has supercharger options on Charge Your Non-Tesla. Also found superchargers near Santa Cruz and Sacramento that are open to CCS customers.

 

[usarcher]

Someone charging an F150 which has a similar charge port placement. Maybe we need to go into off-road mode to gain a couple inches…

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/11erc63

 

[Ayepace]

The standard Tesla cable is too short to reach. It will be necessary to take up multiple spaces in the typical charger layout. The Rivian vehicles, Leafs, and others with ports in the front, or rear, close to the corners won't have a problem. The vehicles with the port effectively behind the front wheels, or in front of the rear wheels (VW) will have issues.

That Lightning is actually taking up 2 parking spaces. You'll see the line for the space just in front of the front wheel. The Tesla charger and parking spaces layout is optimal for cars backing into the spaces thus putting the charging port right next to the charger.

I know of 1 EA charger that has short CCS-1 cables on it although all the other chargers at the sight have longer cables. It causes stress and heating issues at the car connection if one tries to use it. This results in the charging quitting with a fault message.

 

[usarcher]

That Lightning is actually taking up 2 parking spaces. You'll see the line for the space just in front of the front wheel. The Tesla charger and parking spaces layout is optimal for cars backing into the spaces thus putting the charging port right next to the charger.

That’s a well known fact for Tesla but I was thinking it was a nice fact that it still reaches without having to pull along side and take 3+ spots. Tesla wants the federal money and if they wanted to avoid an extra spot being blocked they should have put longer cables in during the retrofit.

That being said there are some supercharger sights that have at least some of the parking spots that this wouldn’t be an issue. They have one in Maine that is designed for someone pulling a trailer. So you could pull in and the charger would be directly beside our front driver’s side charge port. There’s another site which has a normal parking space next to the supercharger so one could in theory park there to use the furthest to the right charger without blocking the next one to the left. This setup another non-Tesla could use that next parking spot to the left and continue down the row without blocking anything.

 

[Slam08]

It’s only a matter of time before someone releases a Tesla to CCS or CCS to CCS extension cord that’s about 3 ft in length.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Tesla decides to sell that adapter instead of lengthening their cords. It would be more efficient and makes sense.

 

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It worked on a Bolt:

World first! Charging a Chevy Bolt EV on a Tesla Supercharger using Magic Dock

The news that Tesla officially allows other electric vehicle makers to charge on its Supercharger network is just a few...

electrek.co

 

[Zap Cat]

There will not be “extension cords” for DC fast charging. This is not 110V 20 amp stuff. It’s also not gasoline where you just put on a longer hose. When you lengthen an electrical run you may need to go to a bigger gauge wire. There are calculations for all that. I am sure Tesla carefully calculated and engineered for the length and and adding more could require complicated things like liquid cooling and all the attendant problems that come with that (see Electrifry America, e.g.). We CCSers can’t fault Tesla. They were there first. The engineered a common port on the rear left corner to make building and maintaining superchargers more affordable. Our engineers had a “better idea” and we are stuck with it. I am not comfortable taking up 2 (or maybe even 3!) stalls. Just contemplate the contempt we feel for ID4’s charging to 100% and idling away. Now multiply that by xxx. Elon did a great negotiation with the Feds. By agreeing to provide common connectors (nothing about cable lengths, etc.) and and thus opening up 3500 of their superchargers, they get fed funding for 20,000 more superchargers. That’s a good thing though. Tesla is the only manufacturer making significant quantities of electric cars and without huge growth in their network, they will be clogging up our pitiful little collection of broken-down CCS chargers. Here’s a link demo’ing how it is working:

 

[jsimon7777]

I just assume that if the charger is yonder, I simply will park in a way that gets my charge port yonder. If that means taking up 3 spots, Tesla must have engineered it that way.

 

[kort6776]

Reports are out that Tesla has opened a few Superchargers with the CCS “magic dock” and we need a volunteer to see if it will charge an Ipace. This could be a game changer for the LA to Phoenix route in an Ipace if they installed those special superchargers adapters on the ones along the route.

Edit: It looks like one near Santa Cruz California is also available for Non-Tesla.

there is a very active discussion on the taycan forum with reports of people successfully charging their taycans at a tesls supercharger.
the first step is to download the tesla app, then setup an account, then follow the instructions and you should be able to use the new tesla superchargers where they are available.

 

[usarcher]

there is a very active discussion on the taycan forum with reports of people successfully charging their taycans at a tesls supercharger.
the first step is to download the tesla app, then setup an account, then follow the instructions and you should be able to use the new tesla superchargers where they are available.

I don’t think there is any question on if it would work or not but a question of cable length reaching our charge ports without needing to get creative with parking.

 

[Topdown500]

In the U.K. TESLA chargers the cable will only reach if you park across 2 bays.

 

[kort6776]

I don’t think there is any question on if it would work or not but a question of cable length reaching our charge ports without needing to get creative with parking.

it depends, reportedly there are some side facing tesla chargers that can be accessed without convoluted parking

 

[usarcher]

it depends, reportedly there are some side facing tesla chargers that can be accessed without convoluted parking

Yeah I commented about spots like that in my state earlier in this thread. I’m just curious how much play one would have if pulled into a normally installed SC, already knowing you would technically be in the charger spot to the right, so taking two spots if another Tesla came along. Would just like to see pictures of it like we see with the Chevy Bolt or F150 as their charging ports are similarly placed.

 

[kort6776]

Yeah I commented about spots like that in my state earlier in this thread. I’m just curious how much play one would have if pulled into a normally installed SC, already knowing you would technically be in the charger spot to the right, so taking two spots if another Tesla came along. Would just like to see pictures of it like we see with the Chevy Bolt or F150 as their charging ports are similarly placed.

considering that currently only a handful of chargers, some in NY and some in CA are operational I don't sense this to be a huge issue yet

 

[sciencegeek]

A handful of youtubers are sharing their experiences so far. Looking at the map, there are now two locations in CA (Scotts Valley and Placerville) and seven in NY.

 

[Vinsuz]

Just read an article this morning in MotorTrend recounting their experience charging three vehicles on a Supercharger. Beyond the parking issues, only the Hyundai Iconic failed to charge (the VW iD4 and Ford F150 Lightening worked without a hitch).