[squishball]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-ca...ium=email&date=020820&utm_campaign=nl19374906

 

[jsimon7777]

Wishful thinking. Real world range is 250 on max charge mode?

 

[squishball]

Which trounces my 180-190 real world range on my I-Pace. Yes, I have a lead foot, plus many short distance trips.

 

[LauderdaleFE]

Or it could be much more, if I'm remembering correctly that the EPA standard just arbitrarily wacks 25% off the range for AC use (without real world testing).

My range impact gauge shows AC impact at -4 miles of range. (Not in summertime, but on some 80F days regardless.)

 

[dennis]

There is a rumor that Model Y now has a heat pump. If so that could account for some of the range improvement.

 

[Calidave]

Just curious, does stretching the roofline of the M3 into the bubble-shaped MY make it an SUV (or a mini mini-van)? To be fair, I classify the I-Pace as a "killer all-wheel drive sport sedan/hatch," not an SUV (though it handles mud pretty well).

 

[sciencegeek]

Just curious, does stretching the roofline of the M3 into the bubble-shaped MY make it an SUV (or a mini mini-van)? To be fair, I classify the I-Pace as a "killer all-wheel drive sport sedan/hatch," not an SUV (though it handles mud pretty well).

My buddies today insisted that I owned a sports car. They were denigrating the Corvette, which they don't like, and I casually said that I don't really care since I don't really like sports cars. They laughed and said "huh, you own a sports car you a.."

And it's actually true.

 

[jsimon7777]

My buddies today insisted that I owned a sports car. They were denigrating the Corvette, which they don't like, and I casually said that I don't really care since I don't really like sports cars. They laughed and said "huh, you own a sports car you a.."

And it's actually true.

For those who don't know, a sports car is a car that looks sporty. Like a Toyota Paseo.

 

[dennis]

Just curious, does stretching the roofline of the M3 into the bubble-shaped MY make it an SUV (or a mini mini-van)? To be fair, I classify the I-Pace as a "killer all-wheel drive sport sedan/hatch," not an SUV (though it handles mud pretty well).

I believe there are 3 things that go into classifying a vehicle as an SUV or CUV:

- Higher body with more ground clearance
- Higher seating position with a better view of the road
- More cargo capacity because of a higher roof line and hatchback.

On the last point the MY with 66 cu ft has more claimed cargo capacity than the i-Pace (52 cu ft) and the e-tron (57 cu ft). That does includes the frunk though which I'm guessing is bigger in the MY.

 

[PS702]

Just curious, does stretching the roofline of the M3 into the bubble-shaped MY make it an SUV (or a mini mini-van)? To be fair, I classify the I-Pace as a "killer all-wheel drive sport sedan/hatch," not an SUV (though it handles mud pretty well).

I believe there are 3 things that go into classifying a vehicle as an SUV or CUV:

- Higher body with more ground clearance
- Higher seating position with a better view of the road
- More cargo capacity because of a higher roof line and hatchback.

On the last point the MY with 66 cu ft has more claimed cargo capacity than the i-Pace (52 cu ft) and the e-tron (57 cu ft). That does includes the frunk though which I'm guessing is bigger in the MY.

Saw the Y the other day up close.
It didn't look that much different than a 3. Just a higher roof
I can't see how it's possible to even have a 3rd row.
It looked like they just raised the suspension an inch for clearance

 

[Calidave]

More interior space but no off-road / adventure capability (you know, the 'sport' in 'sport utility vehicle'). So, I'm going with the "Mini Mini-Van" designation for the Model Y.

 

[PS702]

More interior space but no off-road / adventure capability (you know, the 'sport' in 'sport utility vehicle'). So, I'm going with the "Mini Mini-Van" designation for the Model Y.

It's a car with a hatchback

 

[jsimon7777]

Will model Y have air suspension or a significantly raised ride height?

 

[dennis]

Will model Y have air suspension or a significantly raised ride height?

It is possible Model Y will be offered with an air suspension since it has just appeared in the parts catalog for Model 3, even though it hasn't been offered as an option on M3 yet.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-smart-air-suspension/

 

[Calidave]

It's a car with a hatchback

Hatchback of Notre Dame?

 

[dennis]

Scratch air suspension option from 3/Y - unless the engineers forgot to tell Elon.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/statuses/1226989747098263552