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Macan EV Turbo vs 2019 I-Pace FE

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I traded in my 2019 I-Pace FE for a Macan Turbo. As requested here is my comparison based only 3 weeks with my Macan EV and under 400 miles of usage.
  • The Turbo’s Android system boots up significantly faster than my 2019 I-Pace FE Windows 10 based OS.
  • It has a more compliant ride in normal and sport mode than the I-Pace’s comfort mode. Turbo has 22” wheels with a light load pressure of 44 psi. My I-Pace FE had 20” wheels with a light load pressure of 37 psi
  • Steering in Normal and Sport mode is lighter than the I-Pace in Comfort mode. Minimal steering feedback, not unlike the I-Pace
  • Turbo’s braking power is far superior to that of the I-Pace
  • The Turbo is faster off-the-line
  • Rear wheel steering is awesome. Low speed maneuvers are far superior to the I-Pace’s – entering driveways, backing up, T-turns, sharp right angle turns, are demonstrably better. The Macan's rear wheel steering is more aggressive than the version in my 2018 911.
  • It does not have one-pedal driving but can engage a small amount of regeneration on throttle lift, as opposed to just coasting. The regeneration slows the car down but not nearly as aggressively as the I-Pace’s one-pedal regeneration.
  • It has less rolling/aerodynamic resistance than the I-Pace because it deceptively picks up speed on the highway
  • It creeps off-the-line in Drive and Reverse, and unlike the I-Pace, it can’t be turned off
  • Fun in the twisties. Like the I-Pace, the Turbo is a competent backroads tourer. Driving dynamics are like the I-Pace’s, but I notice the extra 300 lbs. the Turbo carries. Like most Porsches, slow in, fast out is the way to minimize the Turbo’s tendency to understeer mid-corner.
  • The Turbo’s Driving Assistance Features (LKA, Park assist, backup camera, frontal camera, 3-D camera, cruise control, emergency braking, etc.) are functionally the same as the I-Pace’s but just better. The Turbo has a tail-gating warning feature.
  • I’ve driven the Turbo about 400 miles, getting about 2.7 mi/kWh compared to 1.8 M/kwh for my I-Pace (based on my calculations).
  • Esthetics. The I-Pace far better looking. Lines are unique and beautiful. Macan is your typical bubble shape.
  • Fit, quality, and appearance on par with my I-Pace FE.
  • Full moon roof with front open & tilt sunroof
  • Motorized sunshade covering the full length of the moon roof
  • Infotainment center touch screen is like the I-Pace’s but boots up faster and seems to respond to inputs faster.
  • Voice control is significantly better.
  • Climate control is primarily via hard buttons.
  • It has a wireless phone charging pad hidden under a sliding cover
  • The driver’s seat automatically moves backward when the driver’s door is opened to assist in egress
  • The trunk floor length to the rear seats is about 1” shorter
  • The rear seat headrests must be removed to fully fold down the rear seat backs if the front seats are near their rearmost positions. Alternatively, move the seats forward, lower the rear seat backs, and move the front seats backward.
  • The Center console storage compartment is tiny compared to I-Pace’s
 
#3 ·
Interesting comparison, though I cannot fathom why they market the top EV model as “Turbo”, since it doesn’t have one, rather than maybe GT4.

My wife runs a 2021 Macan S (2.9 V6 349hp). I must say, whilst the Macan is a great car, given the choice, I pick up the keys to the I-Pace. That said, whilst my I-Pace has virtually every option (apart from heated steering wheel), her Macan is missing air suspension and many of the driving aids that make the I-Pace effortless yet fun to drive.
 
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I never saw any evidences of this Windows thing, apart from the rotating color rectangles. What we know for sure is that the processor is a 2012 1.9 Ghz quad core Intel Atom chip. The User Agent in the browser, however, says "Linux, Android".
 
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Thanks for the write-up! There are two issues on your list that are show-stoppers for me. I keep the rear seats folded 99% of the time and have a tall friend that pushes the seat way back... I've lived with removing the headrest before and it quickly becomes a PITA.
 
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I recall reading an article some time ago about VW's ID lineup of cars and that the lack of one pedal is intentional. Ultimately, their engineers determined that it's more efficient to allow the car to coast, than it is to harvest energy in certain settings. So it's a design choice to maximize range.
 
#13 ·
I test drove a Macan Electric 4 and the sales guy said that while there is no one-pedal regen, the brake pedal actuates regen long before it actuates the binders, which only grab on under the heaviest braking. If true, that means you're still getting the efficiency benefits of regen, you're just moving your foot to do it. If true.
Yes, it's a blended braking system, just like the I-Pace's but the regen is biased way towards input by the brake pedal (press) rather than the 'gas' pedal (release).

I recall reading an article some time ago about VW's ID lineup of cars and that the lack of one pedal is intentional. Ultimately, their engineers determined that it's more efficient to allow the car to coast, than it is to harvest energy in certain settings. So it's a design choice to maximize range.
Ah the old discussion of coasting and regen. I recall spirited debates on this forum about coasting. I'm an anti-coaster, but what do I know. Here's what I suspect though: the partnership between VW and Rivian will show VW the light of extremely aggressive regen. Rivian would not have made that choice if it were inefficient. I'm sure VW made that choice because they had focus groups with a bunch of ICE people who can't get their heads around regen, and the result was "we have to minimize regen so that people will feel comfortable in their old ways." The exact opposite of Rivian and Tesla.
 
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Yes, it's a blended braking system, just like the I-Pace's but the regen is biased way towards input by the brake pedal (press) rather than the 'gas' pedal (release).



Ah the old discussion of coasting and regen. I recall spirited debates on this forum about coasting. I'm an anti-coaster, but what do I know. Here's what I suspect though: the partnership between VW and Rivian will show VW the light of extremely aggressive regen. Rivian would not have made that choice if it were inefficient. I'm sure VW made that choice because they had focus groups with a bunch of ICE people who can't get their heads around regen, and the result was "we have to minimize regen so that people will feel comfortable in their old ways." The exact opposite of Rivian and Tesla.
Technically, you can do exactly the same amount of coasting/regen with either scenario. In single pedal, you can pull back just enough to coast. Pull back further and you start to regen, push forward, apply power again. Maybe that sweet spot is hard to find, but I think I am mostly driving like that. It means moving from accelerate to the brake in the Macan instead, which is more foot movement, but on the other hand, it takes a bit of work to keep your foot continuously in a certain position in single pedal while coating on a Macan would allow a moment of rest for the foot.