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Hi, has anyone done LA to Bakersfield trip and back in one day? 115 miles each way it seems... Any advice? Would you recommend a fast charger where I can have a nice lunch and a good espresso? I dont think I ll be able to do it without charging the car. Thanks!
 

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I was looking at this route last weekend when I made the same trip to the central valley.
Only decent fast charger I saw was at a Walmart off of exit 20 in Bakersfield

What part of LA are you leaving from?
 

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I was looking at this route last weekend when I made the same trip to the central valley.
Only decent fast charger I saw was at a Walmart off of exit 20 in Bakersfield

What part of LA are you leaving from?
From Santa Monica
 

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Nice, Walmart is the one I am eyeing up as well. Each leg is 115 miles, think the car would do the 230 mile trip with ac at 72?
 

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Nice, Walmart is the one I am eyeing up as well. Each leg is 115 miles, think the car would do the 230 mile trip with ac at 72?
That uphill climb into Gorman will be brutal

I would love the see the regen on the way back though.
 

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The Grapevine will keep you from doing a roundtrip even if hypermiling due to physics of the return trip.
It's more relaxing to just drive in the fast lane and not worry about anything.
 
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What a fuss with the prep though, jaguar here account not working, updating maps is a pain, registering with EVgo is a pain, jeez! :smile2:
 

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Tips for Western SAE Combo trips:
Get EVgo, ChargePoint, and EVConnect RFID cards. If cellular service goes down, which actually happened in Baker, CA, the RFID card will still work.
Load the EVgo, CP, EVConnect, and Electrify America cellular phone apps.

But most charging can be done with a credit card just like a gas station. The RFID and Cell Aps are backup systems.

Most chargers are Plug First, then pay. But read instructions carefully. Your car must be OFF.
 

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Yep that climb is definitely a battery killer! Here are my numbers:


Start, 113m to go, 100% 227m indicated range.
Somewhere towards the end of the climb, 56m to go, 62% 130m indicated range.
At the end of the climb and descent, 33m to go, 51% 107m indicated range.
Arrived, 37%, 74m indicated range.

Charged up at Walmart EVgo, return:
Start, 103m to go, 90% 180m indicated range.
Arrived, 30% 60m indicated range.
 

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Yep that climb is definitely a battery killer! Here are my numbers:


Start, 113m to go, 100% 227m indicated range.
Somewhere towards the end of the climb, 56m to go, 62% 130m indicated range.
At the end of the climb and descent, 33m to go, 51% 107m indicated range.
Arrived, 37%, 74m indicated range.

Charged up at Walmart EVgo, return:
Start, 103m to go, 90% 180m indicated range.
Arrived, 30% 60m indicated range.
How was the charging experience?
 

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Yep that climb is definitely a battery killer! Here are my numbers:


Start, 113m to go, 100% 227m indicated range.
Somewhere towards the end of the climb, 56m to go, 62% 130m indicated range.
At the end of the climb and descent, 33m to go, 51% 107m indicated range.
Arrived, 37%, 74m indicated range.

Charged up at Walmart EVgo, return:
Start, 103m to go, 90% 180m indicated range.
Arrived, 30% 60m indicated range.
Nice! Consistent with my experience going over mountains.
 

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How was the charging experience?
It was an EVgo 50kW charger. I registered online in advance. After 45 min I came back to the car and unlocked it, I think that stops the charging, I didnt know that. So in 45min I got 37.8kWh at $13.50. To get it up to 90% I initiated the charge again, waited 11mins and I was off. Charging experience was positive.

Another guy came there clueless with a leaf and it allowed him to charge without an app just following commands on the screen with a credit card, actually it may have charged him a bit more since he wasnt registered, I am not sure.
 

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Climbing will always hurt more than the decent helps.
Same as a headwind will hurt more than a tailwind helps.
Yep and the descent doesnt really recover any energy, you are just using less energy to keep the speed.
 

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It was an EVgo 50kW charger. I registered online in advance. After 45 min I came back to the car and unlocked it, I think that stops the charging, I didnt know that. So in 45min I got 37.8kWh at $13.50. To get it up to 90% I initiated the charge again, waited 11mins and I was off. Charging experience was positive.
EVgo has a 45 min max policy. It will let you restart just like you did. But it does shut off at 45 min; if you sign up for the text messages they will tell you when charging has stopped in case you forget.
 

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Descending at low speed does a good amount of regen. But if you don't need to stretch range, why bother? For hypermiling efforts, mountains should be taken at 55 mph both climbing and descending.
The more amps you put through the battery, the more heat and resistance you create, which is all lost energy. ie - the higher the kW throttle, and higher the kW regen, the fewer miles per kWh due to extra heat lost.
 
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