[ipace_wanted]

All the information I have seen says all 2019 I-Paces are part of the recall and buyback. If you have seen otherwise, post a 2019 VIN that is not part of the recall/buyback.

I don't know what auditors you are referring to, but I don't care about lemon laws in Michigan. I will negotiate with JLR or their representative for a buyback price. I expect the price to be based on the value of the car, not based on when I purchased it or for what price. They can figure out when I bought it, but they will not know what I paid for it. Again, I considered it a low risk way of test driving my first EV without losing any money to depreciation. I empathize (a little) for those who spent $80K+ on these vehicles. I have never bought a new car because I can't afford the depreciation they incur. EVs have been hit hard, luxury EVs even harder.

My point about other model years is that I would consider it a fair offer if JLR offers enough money for my 2019 I-Pace to replace it with a similarly equipped 2020 I-Pace that is not part of the recall. For all those here who are saying they just want to keep their car, why not just take the buyback and go buy a 2020 tomorrow with the proceeds? There are several 2020 HSE trim models for under $30K on the market right now. Lower trims are as little as $20K.

Here are just the ones that are at JLR dealerships:

Used I-Paces for sale

Based on the only 2 FEs I know of on the market right now, I got a pretty good deal on mine. (Both of these are part of the recall and still for sale).

2019 FE $28,900

2019 FE $27,000

 

[The_Puppy_is_the_Co-Pilot]

the info came from Jaguar USA. you can check your VIN here...

Jaguar Ownership - VIN Recall Search| Jaguar USA

We are devoted to providing outstanding levels of safety for all Jaguar drivers. If a recall has been issued for any Jaguar vehicle you can verify it here.

www.jaguarusa.com

A person can also check through CARFAX and USDOT for checking VIN numbers about recalls.
I Pace production up to March 14, 2019 are effected.

below is from USDOT for where my info came from...

If Jaguar knows you own the car you have...you will know if you are effected. I have received 3 or 4 letters on the topic so far... last letter from JaguarUSA was last weekend telling to bring my car in for the 80% limiting software which starts the buy back process. My car got the death software a few days ago.

the 2 cars you sited have VINs in the effected range...my understanding here in MI, and licensed MI dealer can't sell a used car with known open unprocessed recalls on it. Except for this unqiue Jaguar recall, one dealership typically just takes the car to the OEM dealership for recall repair $0 cost and gets the car back.

xxx65780 its in the VIN range, being sold by a private small seller, doesn't look like they are giving a free CARFAX report... "buyer beware"... such a small reselling dealer might not honestly know

xxx73551 is also in the VIN range trying to be sold by a Porsche dealer, they do give a free CARFAX report... again "buyer beware" read it it says it has the safety recall but has not been serviced for it... good bet this dealer knows but doesn't want the hassle

If one buys these cars... one might not get servicing at a Jaguar delaership for them. My local JLR dealer told me they are not allowed to park the recalled cars inside the service garage. Remember, if the cars burn up while recharging, everything 20 feet or 4m around it also burns up.

No matter what used car one is buying, get a CARFAX or equivalent report. It worth the $30. Most national used car sellers will provide the report for free. See how many owners it had, crashes, see its travels around the USA... Ford bought my Lincoln Mrk8 back in 1998, I checked the CARFAX 1 year after I sold it back to Ford....it had 5 more owners after me with an additional 5K miles... the report didn't say it was bought back under MI lemon law... but a 36K mile car with 8 owners should be a red flag... that car spent 9 months of my 11 months of ownership in Lincoln Mercury service holding lots and service garages... a good example of a metalic gray lemon on wheels.

Jaguar will harvest good parts for repairing other cars and scrap or recycle what is left of these cars in the recalled VIN range. This I Pace VIN range is hexxed for eternity.

As for getting $$$, and buying a replacement I Pace or JLR product is what the dealership wants is possible. But most 2019 and 2020s for resale have more miles and less options than mine... and hot black leather... bad for me and doggy in the summer. Although I admit I am thinking of brown leather interior new I pace... its 60 months away from the problem months to where it should be OK. I am curious that if one goes to JaguarUSA, one can still spec build an I Pace...would it be a 2025MY? I could not get any info from my pals at LG on what the manufacturing change was on March 15th that cured this specific battery issue.

 

[ipace_wanted]

The software update to 80% charging limit is enough to address the recall, so dealers are free to sell them. Once the software change is done, the recall is completed as far as NHSTA is concerned.

2024 was the last model year for the I-Pace. Not sure why they still have the spec build website up.

I have yet to see a 2019 I-Pace not covered by the recall/buyback. I think that VIN range covers all of them.

Also, some recalls do not show up on the CARFAX, it is best to search NHTSA for official list.

 

[ipace_wanted]

I don't know what color you have or trim, but here are some options with low miles and not black interior. Don't forget you can get $4,000 used EV tax credit at point of sale if you buy another one for under $25K if it is one-owner and you qualify.

2020 I-Pace HSE - Blue

2020 I-Pace SE - White

2022 I-Pace HSE Grey

 

[epirali]

The software update to 80% charging limit is enough to address the recall, so dealers are free to sell them. Once the software change is done, the recall is completed as far as NHSTA is concerned.

Actually I am not sure this is accurate as apparently the fires were not addressed simply by 80% charge. That was a temporary fix until the final recall which is the buyback.

 

[ipace_wanted]

Actually I am not sure this is accurate as apparently the fires were not addressed simply by 80% charge. That was a temporary fix until the final recall which is the buyback.

I think you are right. Previous recalls were closed with the software update, but the H536 looks like it will stay open until the vehicle is repurchased by JLR.

 

[The_Puppy_is_the_Co-Pilot]

From what I have read over the last few months, the 80%SOC limit doesn't prevent the fires...at least 3 more fires happened after their SW updates... those additional fires are what prompted Jaguar to do the buy back and remove the suspect cars from the streets. the 80% limit makes the fires less exciting, but doesn't prevent an anode to cathode short within the cell (a mechanical issue inside the cell, not actually a software issue) GTR20 requirement. My dealer service team knew of the actions and wanted to wait until more info became available from the mother ship... their information and communication from the mother ship was poor... so go easy on the staff. JLR's promise to USDOT and approved final action is to buy back the suspect cars and remove them from the street population. My belief is that Jaguar's analysis showed making a new pack+shipping it 7000 miles+the labor to install the new pack+scrapping the old pack was > not worth the value of the vehicle...thus buying back the suspect population of 2700 cars was cheaper from a business $$$ perspective.

 

[The_Puppy_is_the_Co-Pilot]

Maybe someday the Jaguar I Pace will make a good educational case example for business students and engineering students to learn from.

 

[Qtown charger]

.... I Pace production up to March 14, 2019 are effected.

...... Remember, if the cars burn up while recharging, everything 20 feet or 4m around it also burns up.

.... As for getting $$$, and buying a replacement I Pace or JLR product is what the dealership wants is possible. But most 2019 and 2020s for resale have more miles and less options than mine... and hot black leather... bad for me and doggy in the summer. Although I admit I am thinking of brown leather interior new I pace...

I sense that you may be confusing build year with model year. It is quite conceivable that the last of the 2019's in the US was actually built on or before Mar 14 2019. My 2019 FE was built June 2018 and was not one of the earliest 2019's.

Regarding the fire hazard - it would do everyone some good to view pictures of the effected vehicles. This forum contains a thread from an owner in FL that had an incident around July 4th last year. The vehicle was parked on the driveway adjacent to the house definitely not 20ft (~6m) from the house. Note also that the front of the car was essentially untouched by the fire and that the tires (usuaslly quite prone to catching fire) were not burnt.

Now, some helpful advice. I traded up from an ivory interior 2019 FE to a tan interior 2024 this Summer. With the heat reflective glass you will not have a heat problem in tropical Michigan.

 

[Qtown charger]

From what I have read over the last few months, the 80%SOC limit doesn't prevent the fires...at least 3 more fires happened after their SW updates...

I believe you will find those 3 additional fires were after the initial software update that installed the software that monitors the battery, and restricts charging to 72% if a problem is detected.

The latest recall (80% restriction and buyback) was a response to that software not preventingvthe fires.

 

[epirali]

Maybe someday the Jaguar I Pace will make a good educational case example for business students and engineering students to learn from.

I would title the course: "how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"

 

[Snowflake]

For those who have been through the process, do they look at damage and then price the car, or do they just go straight off of a value? We had a rock crack our roof glass. Worth it to have repaired? Might even total the car at this rate. :\
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[James Parylak]

For those who have been through the process, do they look at damage and then price the car, or do they just go straight off of a value? We had a rock crack our roof glass. Worth it to have repaired? Might even total the car at this rate. :\
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I received a quote/offer, sight unseen. However, you should get other input, as I was initially told that the vehicle would have to be inspected; it was not. One person on this forum said they had window tint installed and Jaguar had them remove it before they would accept the car. Reach out to others.

 

[Pollo de muerte]

For those who have been through the process, do they look at damage and then price the car, or do they just go straight off of a value? We had a rock crack our roof glass. Worth it to have repaired? Might even total the car at this rate. :\
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In my case, they did not look at the vehicle at all. In fact, the 2023 replacement was delivered to me from the out of state dealer and I dropped off the 2019 at my local dealer several days later.

 

[Snowflake]

At this point, I'm not planning on going back to Jaguar. This whole thing has been so pitifully handled. If they did offer a new battery, I'd likely say yes.

 

[bitzerj]

For those who have been through the process, do they look at damage and then price the car, or do they just go straight off of a value? We had a rock crack our roof glass. Worth it to have repaired? Might even total the car at this rate. :\
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Sight Unseen..... Apparently condition of car doesn't make any difference in the offer. I still wonder what would happen if you drove to the drop off in a car with major parts falling off If you look at the process posted in other posts, you get an offer, you accept or reject, if accepted, a package is sent to your drop off location (local dealer) with a check. I haven't seen an inspection step listed anywhere.

 

[Time2Roll]

I would assume normal wear and tear is accepted. Deliberate damage or a wrecked car not so much.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Anyone know after signing the agreement with the Morleynet representative, how long does it take for them to pick the vehicle and for me to get the check?

 

[glenroebuck]

How much are people getting in offers?

 

[MobiusPizza]

How much are people getting in offers?

2019 HSE 50k miles, I get $32k approx.