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Long story short:
Ordered July 2018.
Got build order date of 3/2019
Called around various dealers in state and found the exact car that I had ordered with one additional option.
Asked my local dealer to get that car from the other dealership. Surprised he was able to do it 2 days.
Took delivery last night

Silicon Silver
20inch Gloss Black
Leather Sport Seats
Adaptive Dynamics, AdSR, HUD, and few other options
89k Sticker - no negiotiations

Car is every bit any fan would imagine. No problems with touchscreen, but at times sluggish.

Some early comments:
1. Apple Carplay easily connect and works - compared to my older aftermarket headunit with carplay -
no specific button to active Siri,
can't pinch, zoom, pan out, or even move maps using touchscreen. Compared to Jaguar Navigation - you can move map around
Bluetooth telephone works great, and other party has no problems hearing me
2. Remote Climate/Preconditioning - not sure what else to call it - jaguar salesman told me you can only precondition car if charging. Doesn't sound right. Anyone know if this is true? I know with Tesla, you can precondition with car even if not plugged in and charging. The beauty of the electric car is having the car ready for you on hot summer day with the AC on.
3. Steering wheel requires manual adjustment. Seems like a 90k car should have a motorized steering wheel adjustment like many other cheaper cars. I know for most people, they are the only ones who drive it, but you can set it once. But the car has 3 memory buttons for 3 drivers.
4. My salesman signed me up for Jaguar Remote App - he did not inform me that by agreeing to sign up for the app, i would be signed up ATT cell service with car. I got an email stating that I got 3 months free. I was under the impression that use of the app was part of owning the car. Not an extra fee. I hate to pay for cell service on my car, just to see if doors were locked, batter charge level, and other info.

Will post more as I learn more....
 

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Be aware that the Pre-Conditioning has quirks and occasional failures (read other entries in this forum). It can be used, but not relied upon. You cannot stop charging from the phone app. It will tell you it did, and then restart a few minutes later. Awaiting software updates. Also, people are recommending that you boot the car patiently - letting it go through all it's start up screens before you start pushing buttons, or putting it into gear. This lessens (but doesn't fully prevent) the chance of your center screens going black. If this does happen, you can try to shut the car down, take out any USB drives/connections and even remove the SIM card and do another total restart. If that doesn't work, you may have to have your dealer reset the software.

We are all anxiously awaiting Jag Software fixes for these things. But, you'll love the car anyway!
 

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Some early comments:
1. Apple Carplay easily connect and works - compared to my older aftermarket headunit with carplay -
no specific button to active Siri,
can't pinch, zoom, pan out, or even move maps using touchscreen. Compared to Jaguar Navigation - you can move map around

4. My salesman signed me up for Jaguar Remote App - he did not inform me that by agreeing to sign up for the app, i would be signed up ATT cell service with car. I got an email stating that I got 3 months free. I was under the impression that use of the app was part of owning the car. Not an extra fee. I hate to pay for cell service on my car, just to see if doors were locked, batter charge level, and other info.

Will post more as I learn more....
While you cannot do the pinch to zoom or move the map by dragging, you can zoom in/out and move the map around by using the +/- buttons and move by using the arrow keys in both Apple and Google maps within CarPlay.

The Remote app does not require the ATT service. In fact you can cancel it anytime during the 90 day trial period.
 

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So does anyone know exactly what the AT&T does cover in the infotainment/and other functions (like Over the air updates, wifi, 3g, 4g etc)?

My dealer never explained anything about it and have not heard anything about AT&T.

I did hear from Sirius, offering to extend my trial for either 6 months or a year at 50% off normal rates.
 

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So does anyone know exactly what the AT&T does cover in the infotainment/and other functions (like Over the air updates, wifi, 3g, 4g etc)?

My dealer never explained anything about it and have not heard anything about AT&T.

I did hear from Sirius, offering to extend my trial for either 6 months or a year at 50% off normal rates.
It’s just there, allowing your car to serve as a hotspot if you want it to, just like pretty much every new car on the road these days. It is not required for anything.
 

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I wondered that, too. How does one even know if one is using it? (I presume heavily that I didn't ever do anything in the Jag that I didn't do in any other car.)
 

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Another cool things that I noticed:

If you put car in park, and click button to unlock seatbelt, car will turn off....
 

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Yes, that's a documented "feature" in the manual. Some think of it as a "bug" - if you have to get out of the car to grab your mail or move a garbage can, it can be mildly frustrating. I think a better solution would be to shut off after 5 minutes if you get out and forget to shutdown.
 

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Re-print for information: Manually set parking brake, push N for neutral, exit car. Car will stay ON.


I had to do this when I was trying to collect 'trip data' as a 1-piece chunk of info or it would break it into two trips, which were unequal (altitude change).
 

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Re-print for information: Manually set parking brake, push N for neutral, exit car. Car will stay ON.


I had to do this when I was trying to collect 'trip data' as a 1-piece chunk of info or it would break it into two trips, which were unequal (altitude change).
Thanks for the tip!
 

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Another cool things that I noticed:

If you put car in park, and click button to unlock seatbelt, car will turn off....

I'm on the fence whether I like that or not... but either way I think it should be configurable. Maybe in a future update.
I do like that once parked I can hit OFF button and it immediately shifts to park, so I use that method rather than press park, press off.
 

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Probably a safety feature. In my Ram, if I open the door, the car shifts into park. Remember the guy from Star Trek who got himself run over?
 

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Yeah, that sounds like a really stupid feature. I unfasten my seatbelt to reach my wallet in the drive thru window, and the car turns itself off. What genius thought that was a good idea?
Their gas cars do that as well. It's a safety feature to prevent you from letting your car roll away. Probably makes even more sense on a silent EV.
 

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Their gas cars do that as well. It's a safety feature to prevent you from letting your car roll away. Probably makes even more sense on a silent EV.
Yes, clearly it is intended as a safety feature. My point is that is a stupid one. The Bolt has a comparable though different 'safety' feature - one-pedal driving is disabled when driver seatbelt is not fastened - i.e. the car creeps instead of stopping as the driver expects it to. In my experience, it is the Bolt's worst feature.

Such weird behaviors are too clever by half. By programming cars to behave in unexpected ways, the manufacturers risk confusing the operator and decreasing safety rather than increasing it. Cars are not expected to turn themselves off when seatbelts are unfastened, Jaguar's lawyers notwithstanding.
 

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Yes, clearly it is intended as a safety feature. My point is that is a stupid one. The Bolt has a comparable though different 'safety' feature - one-pedal driving is disabled when driver seatbelt is not fastened - i.e. the car creeps instead of stopping as the driver expects it to. In my experience, it is the Bolt's worst feature.

Such weird behaviors are too clever by half. By programming cars to behave in unexpected ways, the manufacturers risk confusing the operator and decreasing safety rather than increasing it. Cars are not expected to turn themselves off when seatbelts are unfastened, Jaguar's lawyers notwithstanding.
Wait. I have never been in a gas car that if it is in Park and you disconnect the seat belt it shuts off. So why should an electric. It provides no more safety if the car is in Park to begin with. I am fine with it shutting off if you forget to put it into Park. BUT if you purposely put it into Park, the car should stay running, for everyone else in the car who wants infotainment, radio, wifi, etc just because you get out to check something. ESPECIALLY since we are all "slow booting" right now, it is REALLY annoying.
 

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Wait. I have never been in a gas car that if it is in Park and you disconnect the seat belt it shuts off. So why should an electric. It provides no more safety if the car is in Park to begin with. I am fine with it shutting off if you forget to put it into Park. BUT if you purposely put it into Park, the car should stay running, for everyone else in the car who wants infotainment, radio, wifi, etc just because you get out to check something. ESPECIALLY since we are all "slow booting" right now, it is REALLY annoying.
Yes, very annoying. Putting it in N and putting on the parking brake helps some, but then you cannot lock the car or open the tailgate (except with the dash button).

In the meantime, I would skip the whole slow boot thing. Just get in and drive. The number of times that has caused any issues with me in over 2700 miles is very few and have self resolved without problems
 

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Wait. I have never been in a gas car that if it is in Park and you disconnect the seat belt it shuts off. So why should an electric. It provides no more safety if the car is in Park to begin with. I am fine with it shutting off if you forget to put it into Park. BUT if you purposely put it into Park, the car should stay running, for everyone else in the car who wants infotainment, radio, wifi, etc just because you get out to check something. ESPECIALLY since we are all "slow booting" right now, it is REALLY annoying.
Don’t know about I Pace yet it all my other EVs will shut down drivetrain but NOT infotainment or climate in this case. I believe it is partly because without an engine noise a lot of people may leave their cars in the ready state. The only exception to this I have seen was the Leaf, and my wife definitely left it on overnight a couple of times.
 
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