Jaguar switching the I-Pace to MY 2020 already?

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Pseudonym

Discussion Starter · Oct 18, 2018

Found this thread on the UK board, they said all cars built November 8th or after will be updated to the new configs standard with the 2020 which, for them, results in some added features but a small price increase as well. Two different people there with orders said they had two different sources tell them their orders already in to be built after November 7th were going to received a model year 2020 designation. Anybody else heard anything like this?

https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=489

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TotesMagotes

· #2 · Oct 18, 2018

Pseudonym said:
Found this thread on the UK board, they said all cars built November 8th or after will be updated to the new configs standard with the 2020 which, for them, results in some added features but a small price increase as well. Two different people there with orders said they had two different sources tell them their orders already in to be built after November 7th were going to received a model year 2020 designation. Anybody else heard anything like this?

https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=489

I don't know anything specific to that, but my sales guy did make some vague comment a few weeks ago about prices going up after the initial round of sales and implied I was fortunate to be in the first group. My initial take on that comment was that he was suggesting to me: "don't try to get cute by negotiating the price with us." But maybe there was actually something to it.

I can't imagine they'll alter the drivetrain at all. But maybe just a tweak to the list of standard equipment so they can justify charging more money. If I had to guess (which is all I can really do), JLR is probably pleasantly surprised by the healthy demand for the I Pace and they're belatedly realizing the market will sustain a higher MSRP.

Pseudonym

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 18, 2018

TotesMagotes said:
I don't know anything specific to that, but my sales guy did make some vague comment a few weeks ago about prices going up after the initial round of sales and implied I was fortunate to be in the first group. My initial take on that comment was that he was suggesting to me: "don't try to get cute by negotiating the price with us." But maybe there was actually something to it.

I can't imagine they'll alter the drivetrain at all. But maybe just a tweak to the list of standard equipment so they can justify charging more money. If I had to guess (which is all I can really do), JLR is probably pleasantly surprised by the healthy demand for the I Pace and they're belatedly realizing the market will sustain a higher MSRP.

It could be. But they've had no problem raising prices in the middle of a model year run before and at least in the UK they still have to pay the higher price even though they ordered already. If they are changing model years, I wonder if its something more substantive with the drive train.

Time2Roll

· #4 · Oct 18, 2018

I can't list the differences but it seemed the US configurations already had some features as standard compared to other areas.

ChargedUp

· #5 · Oct 24, 2018

The thing I'm most curious about for the 2020MY is whether or not it will be offered in SVR guise. There are a couple of different publications which seem to suggest this, and we know its only a matter of time before we start seeing performance EV's.

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Guy

· #6 · Oct 24, 2018

That will be $$$$$$

sflgator

· #7 · Oct 24, 2018

ChargedUp said:
The thing I'm most curious about for the 2020MY is whether or not it will be offered in SVR guise. There are a couple of different publications which seem to suggest this, and we know its only a matter of time before we start seeing performance EV's.

Nice, but just give me a free OTA software update for better performance and/or longer range. :wink2:

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ECP

· #8 · Oct 31, 2018

There are two moments when an automobile succumbs to rapid depreciation. The first, of course, is when you drive it off the dealer’s lot. The second is when the new model year is introduced. There is nothing that can be done about the first. But according to an ongoing thread in the I-Pace British forum, we will be driving last years model as early as March. Some British dealers are even indicating that all orders received in the future will be model year 2020. I can’t help but feel a little betrayed. Usually early adopters don’t get stabbed like this.

Time2Roll

· #9 · Oct 31, 2018

ECP said:
There are two moments when an automobile succumbs to rapid depreciation. The first, of course, is when you drive it off the dealer’s lot. The second is when the new model year is introduced. There is nothing that can be done about the first. But according to an ongoing thread in the I-Pace British forum, we will be driving last years model as early as March. Some British dealers are even indicating that all orders received in the future will be model year 2020. I can’t help but feel a little betrayed. Usually early adopters don’t get stabbed like this.

I would like to know the changes before declaring the 2019 becomes obsolete.
The only issue that would have me disappointed would be a significant improvement to the efficiency or range.

Joshuableu

· #10 · Nov 2, 2018

I am feeling very apprehensive about what JLR is doing right now based on my particular order/circumstance.

Supposedly my vehicle was produced last week, which is the last week they will produce MY19 vehicles.
Next week all vehicles produced will be MY20 vehicles with slightly different specs. Those changes are yet to be revealed. Supposedly the online configurator will change on November 8th to reflect the MY20 specs.

My delivery is scheduled for first week of January 2019. In essence I am paying full MSRP for a previous model year vehicle and taking delivery 2 months after the model changeover date.

If I plan to keep the vehicle for 3-4 years it will be viewed as a MY19 vehicle; period.

Like to hear others thoughts on this.

sciencegeek

· #11 · Nov 2, 2018

I don't think it matters

Who knows how much money you'll get for it in 3-4 years anyway. It could be a dog at that point regardless of model year, or it could fetch a premium if it's viewed as a successful car and stays on consumers' radar

Much more important is Tata's plan for JLR turnaround, which is still a bit unclear to me

bruintoo

· #12 · Nov 2, 2018

Joshuableu said:
I am feeling very apprehensive about what JLR is doing right now based on my particular order/circumstance.

Supposedly my vehicle was produced last week, which is the last week they will produce MY19 vehicles.
Next week all vehicles produced will be MY20 vehicles with slightly different specs. Those changes are yet to be revealed. Supposedly the online configurator will change on November 8th to reflect the MY20 specs.

My delivery is scheduled for first week of January 2019. In essence I am paying full MSRP for a previous model year vehicle and taking delivery 2 months after the model changeover date.

If I plan to keep the vehicle for 3-4 years it will be viewed as a MY19 vehicle; period.

Like to hear others thoughts on this.

Wait, so my I-Pace's scheduled "Build Date" is 11/16/2018 for "Delivery Date" of 1/18/19. Does it mean we get MY 2020 I-Pace?

Time2Roll

· #13 · Nov 2, 2018

I think I am glad I have no deposit with my order. Very interested in the changes. Could be primarily a price change as far as I know.
Range and efficiency would be my primary concern. Otherwise it is what it is. MY19 could become a collector item with so few built.

TotesMagotes

· #14 · Nov 2, 2018

Time2Roll said:
I think I am glad I have no deposit with my order. Very interested in the changes. Could be primarily a price change as far as I know.
Range and efficiency would be my primary concern. Otherwise it is what it is. MY19 could become a collector item with so few built.

Take this with a grain of salt because it's just my own personal speculation, but here's what I think: the early MY switch is a marketing gimmick designed to provide cover for a price increase. That's it. There is really no way they would or even could dramatically redesign the drivetrain within a few months of initial production. Of course, we'll know shortly, but I would expect the online configuration tool to reflect changes in standard equipment at each trim level with an associated price increase for each. I'm thinking a 5-7% jump. But again, just a guess on my part.

Maybe this was just blowing smoke, but I was told by my dealer that they were pleasantly surprised by the demand for the I-Pace and would've charged a higher MSRP had they known it would be this popular. If that's true, they're correcting their error.

Joshuableu

· #15 · Nov 2, 2018

bruintoo said:
Wait, so my I-Pace's scheduled "Build Date" is 11/16/2018 for "Delivery Date" of 1/18/19. Does it mean we get MY 2020 I-Pace?

I just had a brief, and I would say rude, conversation with a JLR corporate person, I would say you need to have a face to face with your dealer.
JLR is non-committal on the phone about when the MY changeover is happening but by way of friends in Europe all their brokers are telling them that JLR has told them orders produced after November 7/8 will be MY20 with different specs and different pricing.
Would have been nice if JLR USA could have been less rude and more appreciating of a customer.
If this is what I have to expect as a future customer I'm not looking forward to it.

sflgator

· #16 · Nov 2, 2018 (Edited)

No offense guys, but I think the best approach to MY 2019 vs. MY 2020 is to simply 'chill out.' It makes no difference. There won't be any changes with the MY 2020; from what I've read, the next I-Pace 'refresh' won't be until 2021 or 2022 as JLR adds more EV's and hybrids to their lineup. It could be argued by existing I-Pace owners that their MY 2019 I-Pace deserves and should get any and all OTA software updates as the MY 2020 I-Pace anyhow.

What I don't understand is the fast and furious depreciation of the I-Pace...like 50% in just 2-3 years? At least up until now, the Teslas seem to hold their value very well...they don't depreciate that much or maybe they will now since other premium auto brands are coming out with EVs like Jaguar, Audi, Porsche, etc.? Personally, I don't really care though...my car is purchased and not leased, and I'm going to use the heck out of it for many years (I hope, fingers crossed, lol!

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In any event, people need to relax about the actual MY I-Pace they're getting...either 2019 or 2020...basically the same and both are great!

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phil

· #17 · Nov 2, 2018

Time2Roll said:
I think I am glad I have no deposit with my order. Very interested in the changes. Could be primarily a price change as far as I know.
Range and efficiency would be my primary concern. Otherwise it is what it is. MY19 could become a collector item with so few built.

I placed a $1k deposit which is fully refundable. I suppose if we don't like the '19's when they come in, we can simply take back our deposits and order a '20 if desired.

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mmtahoe

· #18 · Nov 4, 2018

I have to agree with you, I just got notified mine is at port, will be delivered to dealer on November 9, expected to hand over sometime the next week. My dealer has one demo, however it can’t be test driven by any prospective or confirmed buyers. I was told my test drive will likely be my car. Today I want in and sat in the car while being driven by a salesman and I love it. But I did tell the manager I won’t buy any car this expensive without a testing, period. Also showed them this blog and up site that talks about MY change, they professed to have no knowledge about any of this and actually said “how they handle model years in Europe is different. BS is exactly what I said. Hopefully all will be revealed on the 8th, I really want the car and am so excited, but, if true, unless there is a substantial discount off list (mine priced out at $88K) I will refuse delivery and order another...or wait on the Porsche. :frown2:

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sciencegeek

· #19 · Nov 4, 2018

mmtahoe said:
I have to agree with you, I just got notified mine is at port, will be delivered to dealer on November 9, expected to hand over sometime the next week. My dealer has one demo, however it can’t be test driven by any prospective or confirmed buyers. I was told my test drive will likely be my car. Today I want in and sat in the car while being driven by a salesman and I love it. But I did tell the manager I won’t buy any car this expensive without a testing, period. Also showed them this blog and up site that talks about MY change, they professed to have no knowledge about any of this and actually said “how they handle model years in Europe is different. BS is exactly what I said. Hopefully all will be revealed on the 8th, I really want the car and am so excited, but, if true, unless there is a substantial discount off list (mine priced out at $88K) I will refuse delivery and order another...or wait on the Porsche. :frown2:

Man you're overthinking this

It's a freaking awesome car, why would you not want it? They will call your bluff

mmtahoe

· #20 · Nov 4, 2018

Personally I wouldn’t want to deal with any dealership that “calls my bluff”. But that doesn’t mean I’m stupid enough to accept a MY change just 1 month after this car is released in the US. It just makes ZERO sense. You’re suggesting an emotional decision instead of a sensible one. I honestly love the car, but not enough to see it depreciate much more quickly, and, by default, a lower resale value. Daddy isn’t buying my car for me. That said, I truly hope we are all very happy with any news.

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