[Gelbkreutz]

Well, it should motivate JLR to get deals done quickly to reduce the pool of people who can sue.

 

[Time2Roll]

Class action - was it just two people?

Class action generally starts with just a few examples to suss out if the case is valid to move forward. The rest of the class members are added once determined to go forward. The original participants get a nominal extra amount to participate in the discovery phase.

 

[Time2Roll]

Well, it should motivate JLR to get deals done quickly to reduce the pool of people who can sue.

Yup. JLR is picking the low hanging fruit.

 

[ITLBFUN4U]

Hi There,

This isn't accurate. There are owners out there opting for the battery replacement and they are getting them. There are cars out there getting new batteries and repairs have already been completed on numerous vehicles already. All of this is in the hands of the battery manufacturer so JLR acts as messenger once the owner makes a decision and the owner gets notified to bring the car in when the battery comes in. Lead times on new batteries have been weeks to months but I've also heard stories of people getting unexpected calls within a few days advising their battery turned up unexpectedly. There are lots of owners out there who aren't members here. In my view it looks like many owner members here are not opting for new batteries.

In my case if I wanted a new battery there would be no issue with getting one, just the usual waiting around for it to come in once my request was confirmed with JLR. If I owned an otherwise trouble free car like others here I'd take a new battery in a heartbeat and drive that sucker into the ground.

You are correct. The latest ruling monday in Jersey says they can't avoid the fix. And they can't offer a diminished value. This is a huge ruling.

 

[Time2Roll]

Hi There,

This isn't accurate. There are owners out there opting for the battery replacement and they are getting them.

Have heard no examples of this since first of the year. Only buyout offers.

Have not read a post of a recall car limited to 70% 80% that had a battery replaced and restored the range without the artificial limit.

 

[Reneedavis]

If the remedy is a new battery, then that would be fair. Not looking for money here, just a car that drives the 100% range that is was advertised to go. The 80% temporary fix has me thinking a class action lawsuit may be necessary for us Washington State owners. My 2019 iPace won’t even make it to dealer in Bellevue and back home on a full charge since they put that “temporary fix” on it (without asking me for permission to do so) a month ago. A class action law suit sounds about right.

Same here, Marci. Bellevue dealer placed the crippleware on my car when I took it in for the "fix." Had know idea they were reducing my cattery to 80%. I will refuse their KBB offer of a buyback. If you hear of anything for Washington residents please let me know. If the 9th circuit is involved in California, I think that ruling should apply to us.

 

[Chandrga]

2019 ipace owner and contacted by JLR about the buyback offer (low 30s). Wondering the options here.

 

[bradtipp]

Same here, Marci. Bellevue dealer placed the crippleware on my car when I took it in for the "fix." Had know idea they were reducing my cattery to 80%. I will refuse their KBB offer of a buyback. If you hear of anything for Washington residents please let me know. If the 9th circuit is involved in California, I think that ruling should apply to us.

I'll be calling Jag tomorrow to try to start the process after waiting to see how things are going. I use the same Bellevue dealer so will let you know what I find out and how it goes. My view is that I want the buyback + 'compensation' for having to give up my car . The KBB value is then irrelevant as the total is all I'm interested in. I also plan to state that if they want to limit my car then I want a per day compensation for however long that goes on. I'll start at $100 per day.

 

[Gelbkreutz]

I'll be calling Jag tomorrow to try to start the process after waiting to see how things are going. I use the same Bellevue dealer so will let you know what I find out and how it goes. My view is that I want the buyback + 'compensation' for having to give up my car . The KBB value is then irrelevant as the total is all I'm interested in. I also plan to state that if they want to limit my car then I want a per day compensation for however long that goes on. I'll start at $100 per day.

Re compensation, I read that Bolt owners will get $1400 as compensation for the time they lived with the crippled car.

 

[Pacenator]

Class action - was it just two people?

Usually only one lead plaintiff in Class Action.

 

[Time2Roll]

2019 ipace owner and contacted by JLR about the buyback offer (low 30s). Wondering the options here.

IN or OUT. Or is something else listed in the offer?

 

[toobusyboop07]

The difficult part is not knowing how the class action suit will turn up, right? If you accept an offer now, I believe you are then excluded from the class action. If you decline the offer, or unable to negotiate a number you want, are you just SOL if the cla

 

[millbankhomes]

If the remedy is a new battery, then that would be fair. Not looking for money here, just a car that drives the 100% range that is was advertised to go. The 80% temporary fix has me thinking a class action lawsuit may be necessary for us Washington State owners. My 2019 iPace won’t even make it to dealer in Bellevue and back home on a full charge since they put that “temporary fix” on it (without asking me for permission to do so) a month ago. A class action law suit sounds about right.

When I spoke to the rep at Jag that is making the offer on my car I asked to just fix the battery 🔋 issue and they said it cost to much. So instead they dampening $40k it sound like they want offer 50-60% of what the fix would be. Then we are stuck trying to find a comparable replacement which will cost more than what they are offering.

 

[Gelbkreutz]

The difficult part is not knowing how the class action suit will turn up, right? If you accept an offer now, I believe you are then excluded from the class action. If you decline the offer, or unable to negotiate a number you want, are you just SOL if the cla

Even if you sell the car, you may still be able to claim compensation later for the 80% issue.

 

[millbankhomes]

How’s it going? Did you get a resolution They just offered me $26K for my car, which has only 21K miles, is spotless, and has new tires. That’s about $50K less than the original price before discounts. To replace it with a Tesla Model Y in similar condition would cost $10K more than what they’re offering. On top of that, they’re saying I either accept the offer or they won’t service the car anymore—refusing to replace the batteries or fix it. Feels pretty slimy.

 

[millbankhomes]

I will refuse a $30k buyback and will force litigation if I have to. My car has no issues, and I like it and have use for it. I would take a $30k compensation to sign a waiver or release and keep my car.

Any progress. Just got my offer and way too low... I just want my car fixed.

They just offered me $26K for my car, which has only 21K miles, is spotless, and has new tires. That’s about $50K less than the original price before discounts.

To replace it with a Tesla Model Y in similar condition would cost $10K more than what they’re offering. On top of that, they’re saying I either accept the offer or they won’t service the car anymore—refusing to replace the batteries or fix it.

 

[millbankhomes]

2019 ipace owner and contacted by JLR about the buyback offer (low 30s). Wondering the options here.

I got a low ball offer and only have 21k miles and lower than yours. Told take it or leave it basically, they will not service it going forward.

 

[bradtipp]

Ok This is just weird to me. My understanding is that they are doing this to meet the safety recall i.e. in order to meet the NHTSA safety recall they are not repairing the vehicles but buying them back . In theory they could offer you zero - so what stops them from offering you zero? i.e. If you decline their offer, then they are saying both that they will not honor the warranty and that they will not service the car? This increasingly looks like lawyers or class action lawsuit. I'm still at a loss to know what they are obligated to do vs just offering you zero.

 

[millbankhomes]

I think if they offer us zero then we would all organize and sue. My guess is a number of us will end up suing anyway as they are offering some rather lower amounts on the buyout. If you refuse then was told they will stop servicing the car and they are refusing to fix the issue because it cost too much vs. offering low ball amounts. That is what I was told.

 

[epirali]

Any progress. Just got my offer and way too low... I just want my car fixed.

They just offered me $26K for my car, which has only 21K miles, is spotless, and has new tires. That’s about $50K less than the original price before discounts.

To replace it with a Tesla Model Y in similar condition would cost $10K more than what they’re offering. On top of that, they’re saying I either accept the offer or they won’t service the car anymore—refusing to replace the batteries or fix it.

If they tried anything like that with me I would absolutely go the litigation route, because that is coercion. Again I am not a lawyer but if needed I’ll consult one to understand all my options. I am not sure what implications are for warranty and support.

Take this to an extreme, what is to stop a manufacturer from saying “I’ll offer you $10 and if you don’t sell the car I won’t honor the warranty.” Can’t imagine this large a loophole exists in law.