I think I'm going to get me one, any advice for me?
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Hi Wayne,
Advice on purchasing
Check available inventory - use a broad search. If there is something that meets your needs, you can get a discount and perhaps 0% financing. Also check Costco/AAA/Sam's club auto purchase as they should include all deals. Those of us who bought early and custom configured could not take advantage of any discounting.
Definitely use the configure tool to get comfortable with what you want before you buy.
If this is your second (or third, etc.) car, then no worries. Otherwise you do have to plan for long round trips over 200 miles. Be prepared with both the PlugShare app and a portable charger (not the one from Jaguar) that can take 120 or 240 with set of plug adapters. This gives you emergency options and doesn't add weight.
I don't think anyone can suggest the options that you should get as these are all personal taste, however I did not get the HUD and wish I had. No other regrets.
Advice on getting ready for your car
If you live in a house and haven't had an EV before, get an electrician to come out an put in a 14-50R plug (or other "dryer" plug), so that you can use a portable EVSE that has a matching male plug. Make sure the electrician puts this on a separate circuit.
If you live in an apartment or condo, life might be more complicated to get charging out to where you park you car. EV life is tough for apartment dwellers as charge options become limited and you have to rely on convenient infrastructure at work or nearby.
The on board charger doesn't take more than 7.7Kw charge rate, so you don't need an EVSE that is more than 32amp for 240V charging. You can save $50 to $100 by not going to a 40amp EVSE.
Figure out where you will park and charge, then measure the cord length required. Better to know up front. Consider using this your new portable EVSE or a cheap (dumb) portable to take on trips that can accept multiple adapters as noted above for when you take a long trip and the charging station you planned to use is not working.
Check your utility for best rates to charge and make a decision if you need to do time of day charging. You might want a smart charger like a JuiceBox or ChargePoint to manage your TOD charging.
Advice on taking delivery
Once the car reaches the dealer, during their PDI (post delivery inspection), they should plan to apply all available software updates before turning it over. They won't want to, but if you get it done before you take delivery, you won't have schedule a return appointment any time soon.
Advice Post Delivery
Sign up with various charging companies. Until there is a better standard, all charging companies seem to require you to register yourself and your car. You don't need to buy a subscription unless you plan to charge frequently on the road. ChargePoint, Electrify America, EVGo, and perhaps GreenLots are a good start. You'll want to use Plugshare to see who has fast 50kW or faster chargers within about 300 miles of your home so to decide on who you should subscribe with.
Ask lots of questions on this board and let us know what you get. Good luck! The driving experience is fantastic as is the "curb appeal".
Advice on purchasing
Check available inventory - use a broad search. If there is something that meets your needs, you can get a discount and perhaps 0% financing. Also check Costco/AAA/Sam's club auto purchase as they should include all deals. Those of us who bought early and custom configured could not take advantage of any discounting.
Definitely use the configure tool to get comfortable with what you want before you buy.
If this is your second (or third, etc.) car, then no worries. Otherwise you do have to plan for long round trips over 200 miles. Be prepared with both the PlugShare app and a portable charger (not the one from Jaguar) that can take 120 or 240 with set of plug adapters. This gives you emergency options and doesn't add weight.
I don't think anyone can suggest the options that you should get as these are all personal taste, however I did not get the HUD and wish I had. No other regrets.
Advice on getting ready for your car
If you live in a house and haven't had an EV before, get an electrician to come out an put in a 14-50R plug (or other "dryer" plug), so that you can use a portable EVSE that has a matching male plug. Make sure the electrician puts this on a separate circuit.
If you live in an apartment or condo, life might be more complicated to get charging out to where you park you car. EV life is tough for apartment dwellers as charge options become limited and you have to rely on convenient infrastructure at work or nearby.
The on board charger doesn't take more than 7.7Kw charge rate, so you don't need an EVSE that is more than 32amp for 240V charging. You can save $50 to $100 by not going to a 40amp EVSE.
Figure out where you will park and charge, then measure the cord length required. Better to know up front. Consider using this your new portable EVSE or a cheap (dumb) portable to take on trips that can accept multiple adapters as noted above for when you take a long trip and the charging station you planned to use is not working.
Check your utility for best rates to charge and make a decision if you need to do time of day charging. You might want a smart charger like a JuiceBox or ChargePoint to manage your TOD charging.
Advice on taking delivery
Once the car reaches the dealer, during their PDI (post delivery inspection), they should plan to apply all available software updates before turning it over. They won't want to, but if you get it done before you take delivery, you won't have schedule a return appointment any time soon.
Advice Post Delivery
Sign up with various charging companies. Until there is a better standard, all charging companies seem to require you to register yourself and your car. You don't need to buy a subscription unless you plan to charge frequently on the road. ChargePoint, Electrify America, EVGo, and perhaps GreenLots are a good start. You'll want to use Plugshare to see who has fast 50kW or faster chargers within about 300 miles of your home so to decide on who you should subscribe with.
Ask lots of questions on this board and let us know what you get. Good luck! The driving experience is fantastic as is the "curb appeal".
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I had to drive an ICE SUV today. A mattress fell out of the back of a truck about 50 minutes ago into my lane. I stabbed the throttle on the SUV. Nope, it would not accelerate immediately. I had to hit my brakes and swerve behind the car that was blocking my escape.
The Jaguar would not have had any problem getting ahead of the car safely.
EV drive is also a safety feature I suppose. And it will make driving an ICE a PITA.
The Jaguar would not have had any problem getting ahead of the car safely.
EV drive is also a safety feature I suppose. And it will make driving an ICE a PITA.
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I am going very basic, sorry if this is not what you mean. Have you owned a BEV before? Are you comfortable with the range, are you willing to deal with the infotainment bugs and pains in return for an amazing drive and ride? What is the most important thing that is driving you to the I Pace?
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Hi epirali. No BEV before. Needed the sound of V8s under the hood. There is some battery anxiety about owning a BEV as my sole any only vehicle but don't go on >240 mile journeys much anymore; will more than likely rent if I do as it is difficult for me to make even a fast DC charge stop in my journey. Reason I wrote my post is to get what ever info may come my way with a hyphen on issues and problems. Just learning of the infotainment bug. Called the service dept here in Arizona to get their take on it; I understand the issue with infotainment is in all their vehicles from 2017 and later. Not aware of what the issues are with infotainment. I understand SOTA may help with this. Not sure what you mean by "pains in return". I will always drive SUVs probably. I don't like the looks of any of the BEVs and even the I-Pace but its acceptable I guess. I went off the look of the Tesla Model S and don't like 3 or X. I test drove the I Pace the other day and really liked the drive, brought my like back to driving I guess you can say, driving has been a chore for decades to me, no enjoyment. Got an enjoyment driving the I Pace. I could get enjoyment out of other gas vehicles probably. I learned I have cancer and will be making a lot of trips to Mayo Clinic. With work, a single car family, I drive a lot of miles in a lot of traffic and will have to a lot more now. The HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle 2+ people) lane is a restricted lane with a lot less traffic. Alternate Fuel Vehicles, EVs etc, are allowed to drive in the HOV lane, this will save me "a lot" of time on the road which I am going to need. So most important thing is drive in the HOV lane, amazing drive and ride, never making trips to the gas station, reduced cost to charge (fuel) and I can do so at home and less anxiety of driving in a slew of traffic in the commuter lanes. Probable can go on but this is all I have the time for now.
Welcome! #1 I've mentioned this in many places in this forum, but take a NIGHTTIME test drive on a rainy evening with LOTS of oncoming headlights if you are considering the heated windshield (if not in a cold climate, don't even consider it - so the First Editions are off your menu). The squiggly wires embedded in the windshield are an annoyance in daytime, but truly a hazard at night because they cause light diffraction and starry vision that, with oncoming bright lights, create visibility reduction. #2 LOWER the tire pressure to 37psi in all four tires -- this smooths out the ride considerably from the higher pressures JLR ships the cars with. Other than those 2 items, I can't add much to what Sbingham60 offered above. Although somewhere I did post a top 5 list, I think, for new owners...
Beyond the vehicle there's some rebate and charging considerations depending on where you live.
Beyond the $7500 federal tax credit, depending on where you live there are additional possibilities. In Texas there is a $2500 grant from the state (I just got the check) as long you you agree to keep the vehicle for 3 years or more. The form is a bit painful, requiring things like the dealer's license number, etc... so it might be good to download and understand any rebate-related forms ahead of time.
Many power companies also have deals. Austin Energy reimbursed me half the cost of my in-home charger installation. That will vary depending on where your power lines and boxes are in your house (mine cost $2400 with the utility reimbursing half of that). But one thing I wish I had understood before I had my charger installed is the utility also has special car charging flat-rate-plans and time-of-use plans, but these require installation of a sub-meter during the charger installation. I missed knowing about this but don't think the cost of going back to have my charger installation redone with a sub-meter is worth it so I missed out on that. I'm not sure I really missed out on anything since the additional cost of the sub-meter may have taken too long for the savings to be worth it. Be sure to do you own calculations for your utility before doing anything like these.
You also have tech choices in your charger. I'm pleased with my Wifi ChargePoint charger where I can control charging times and see when charging is done and how much power is drawn over time. But I'm a tech guy and tend to be nerdy about these things.
On a similar note, get the ChargePoint app and EV Go apps and accounts especially if you think you might do charges out and about (maybe others where you live). But sure to understand expected charge time options if you are ever going to charge in the wild. If you are on a trip you'll want to use 50kw DC CHAdeMO fast chargers so that you can charge up while you take a meal break. There are websites that can help you plan the trip around charges too, for example https://www.evtripplanner.com/
There aren't many fast chargers at this time and it seems most are at busier food and shopping places (around Austin all of the Wal-Marts have them interestingly enough and in Houston many of the Walgreens!). Tesla chargers are not compatible.
Beyond the $7500 federal tax credit, depending on where you live there are additional possibilities. In Texas there is a $2500 grant from the state (I just got the check) as long you you agree to keep the vehicle for 3 years or more. The form is a bit painful, requiring things like the dealer's license number, etc... so it might be good to download and understand any rebate-related forms ahead of time.
Many power companies also have deals. Austin Energy reimbursed me half the cost of my in-home charger installation. That will vary depending on where your power lines and boxes are in your house (mine cost $2400 with the utility reimbursing half of that). But one thing I wish I had understood before I had my charger installed is the utility also has special car charging flat-rate-plans and time-of-use plans, but these require installation of a sub-meter during the charger installation. I missed knowing about this but don't think the cost of going back to have my charger installation redone with a sub-meter is worth it so I missed out on that. I'm not sure I really missed out on anything since the additional cost of the sub-meter may have taken too long for the savings to be worth it. Be sure to do you own calculations for your utility before doing anything like these.
You also have tech choices in your charger. I'm pleased with my Wifi ChargePoint charger where I can control charging times and see when charging is done and how much power is drawn over time. But I'm a tech guy and tend to be nerdy about these things.
On a similar note, get the ChargePoint app and EV Go apps and accounts especially if you think you might do charges out and about (maybe others where you live). But sure to understand expected charge time options if you are ever going to charge in the wild. If you are on a trip you'll want to use 50kw DC CHAdeMO fast chargers so that you can charge up while you take a meal break. There are websites that can help you plan the trip around charges too, for example https://www.evtripplanner.com/
There aren't many fast chargers at this time and it seems most are at busier food and shopping places (around Austin all of the Wal-Marts have them interestingly enough and in Houston many of the Walgreens!). Tesla chargers are not compatible.
At this time, PlugShare (https://www.plugshare.com) is your best bet on finding chargers and route planning for the North American market.
Just looking at the reviews alone and extensive feedback just shows how good plugshare is.
Friends I know that own the Bolt, Model S and Model 3 all use it and have nothing but positive things to say.
It is important to note that although many current DC chargers are dual nozzle, the I-Pace uses CCS, not CHAdeMO.
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I got the 1st edition after reading about it and looking at Tesla's for years, drooling I guess you could say. Then I was diagnosed with the big C as well in early 2018. I had to count the number of trips to the Doc, hospital, ERs, imaging facilities etc for 2018. It was just over 100 at 130 to 140 miles per trip. I got the I-Pace in Dec 2018, a bit of a bucket list item you could say. Makes the appointments more enjoyable to take them in my I-Pace. Wish it was available earlier in2018. For me this Jag was unique and stylish and is a joy to drive. Glad I pulled the trigger. Got the wife's blessing as well. Funny how the big C influenced the wife acceptance factor. However she likes it as well since she drove me to almost have the appointments as I was fatigued much of the time. I hope you enjoy your decision as much as I did. No regrets.
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I think you have an admirably positive outlook on life. I hope you're recovering.
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Hi Bryan,
Small world. Sorry to hear it. I hope you are doing well now, in remission and recovering well. I start my treatment tomorrow. I'm having trouble finding the exact build I'm looking for, I'm pretty particular, I may have to order one even though I can't wait for one as I need it as soon as possible; Fuji White 20" 5 spoke 'Style 5068' with Diamond Turned finish, light oyster white seats, etc.
Thanks for the reply and wishes. All the best!
Wayne
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I go for a test drive this week. If all goes well, and if I can find the exact model/options that I want in inventory, I might take delivery in early June. :grin2:
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I can confirm the comment on heated windshields. We have one on our FPace and I would never do it again. It's okay, but yes at night it kinda sucks. I could only recommend a heated windshield for those who HAVE to park outside in really cold crappy places where it's a lot of ice and show, etc. I can also confirm that anyone buying a new Jag confirm the tire pressure because yes they ship them with 50lbs and yes our dealer prep didn't even check. My wife drove that sucka out of there with quite the FIRM ride... and it wasn't until I found the "light load" setting and reducing the pressure about 17lbs (!) that we got a decent ride... inexcusable for the dealer... :frown2:
I’ll confirm that the heated windshield is awesome and presents no problems night or day. I wouldn’t buy another car without it.
But, your individual experience/opinion may differ...bottom line, it is purely a personal preference
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Either the heated windshield has an inconsistent manufacturing problem or it's just a matter of personal preference. My wife hates driving at night in any car, and the ipace is no better or worse for her. I have never minded driving at night, and the ipace is no better or worse for me. We all, as humans, do perceive things differently from each other.
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Exactly. I think its important to see and judge for yourself. I know for quite a few its perfectly good. For me it was a complete deal breaker and in fact its what made me let go of me FE and custom order another one without heated windshield (and wait 3 months). I had even considered replacing it with a non heated version but JLR rep said it would cause issues.
And for me what it did to the HUD display was also an issue, everything looked fuzzy with wires in the reflected display.
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It's just weird that literally none of those things happen to us.
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