That's an estimated range of 220 miles which is less than the Bolt's 238 mile range. Guess 400 ponies comes with a cost in terms of distance it can travel as the battery will be drained slightly faster.
Basically.An 18 mile difference is essentially meaningless when you compare them for what they offer you. The I-Pace will offer much more luxury, materials, toys, performance, etc. So when you look at it that way, that marginal difference is nothing to worry about.
Depending on how good the regen systems are you should also factor in the range you will gain from that. Stop and Go traffic is great for regen systems. Too bad there's no exact math for it, sort of unique to specific vehicles and again this is JLR's first attempt.I plan to use the i-Pace as my daily driver and round trip drive to work every day is 60km, not taking into account the battery I'll spend sitting in rush hour traffic. 200 mile will be more than enough for me in that case and most long weekend trips I take, I already rent a large van or SUV for.
It will be great if they have mobile trainers that visit you at home. Car makers have been planning to get away from the traditional dealership experience and more into personalized service. So depending on what JLR does and how your dealer adapts to it, that might be something you get.It would seem that it is 4 months until the Production I-Pace is revealed (though we can glean a lot from the eTrophy) and perhaps (fingers crossed) 12 months until deliveries begin - now just might be the time to start a conversation about - Home Charging.
Electric Vehicle Service Equipment (EVSE) or Level 2 "Chargers" is what you will need to Google to discover what you will need. What I have discovered is that the charger is actual part of the vehicle and the EVSE is what provides the AC power to the car. Curiously all EVSEs are not created equal, as some require and thus provide more power to the car than others; and some can communicate with the vehicle, and you, more effectively than others. I think most of us will be wanting to "fuel" our cars at home and we will need to install this equipment as a simple wall plug will soon prove to be unsatisfactory. Initial investigations have revealed units that can provide 6.6 kW/hr up to 15.4 kW/hr (Teslas have even higher) and needless to say as the charge rate becomes quicker, the cost of equipment and installation increases, as does the heat subjected to the batteries (not a good thing).
I imagine that I am not alone when it comes to being a neophyte with regards to what I have to do once I get my I-Pace home and we will all have some prep work to do (for us first time EV owners). Jaguar will have training sessions to be sure and I am hoping that they will have a EVSE with some solid capabilities (for the purists) though many non-automotive brands are well respected; with very positive reviews. If you are just getting started checkout EVObsession's website regarding "Electric Car Charging 101" (North American Bias) it seems like a good start.
50kw is wrongThe max 50kw charging is a bummer. They say it will be future proofed to accept faster charging speeds in the future—does anybody know what that means? There are 150kw and 320kw charging stations out there now—so what are they waiting for?
Late replying, but in case of interest to anyone:Charging need at home is usually way overrated.
You usually park at home 12 hours or more, and most people do not need 90 (84 usable) kW every day, so even if you come home after a lengthy trip with an empty battery, it will be full after a couple of days.
According to JLR, the battery true capacity is 84.7 kWh, and assuming it's a 90kWh array, 100% is not 100%, it has a buffer. As some Tesla owners can attest, their battery has either a tiny or no buffer at all.Late replying, but in case of interest to anyone:
Whilst correct in many scenarios, I wouldn't be comfortable with it.
We have off-peak electricity for 7 hours during the night, so I would like to be charged within that time.
Yup, we do not return home with 0% exactly, and need 100% the following morning I have got home at 1% on one occasion. Once was enough for that ...
... but I do return home "as empty as possible". If my journey is long enough that I exceed range, and need to Supercharge (in my case) then I only charge enough to get home (plus, say, 20 miles "spare"). Otherwise I'm just sitting waiting at the charger ...
So I am arriving home at 10%, or so, and I may very well need a decent charge for tomorrow's trip - e.g. Saturday and Sunday outings. Being "back up to full battery in a couple of days" is no good on the days when you do need that range.
I would just prefer to be able to "easily" charge overnight. My charge rate gets me about 10% per hour, so if I come home on 10% I will need to charge for an extra hour, in addition to the 7-hour off-peak period, to get back to 90%
That's why my kids and my shop use Chevrolet Volts. Normally you drive on pure EV at 100% rated power (>90% EV mileage fleet), but if you need a long trip, you just keep driving. Car didn't charge last night? No problem.I agree, teslaowner. Life is too short to waste it on range anxiety or worrying about having your car plugged in every available minute.
Yes, agreed. Presumably "whole battery" available in Tesla, hence need to choose to charge to, say, 90% daily and then adjust to 100% "for trips" ... and risk that Punters don't understand and charge to 100% all the time, or charge to 100% and "leave it there".As some Tesla owners can attest, their battery has either a tiny or no buffer at all.
My mistake, I thought i-Pace could not charge at 240v x 32a240v x 32a for 7 hours should net 188 miles of range
That's not the whole story though ...if a dollar or two is more than your budget can support
We have high tax on Fuel (like most of world outside USA) so the price saving using Electric is dramatic. Comparing price of Petrol/Diesel here to electricity means that on UK off-peak electricity I get around 200 miles-per-gallon equivalent. So you are right, it makes very little difference to me (compared to the Fossil Fuel price I was used to), if I charge a bit more/less at Peak/Off-peak. Of course Tesla owners will tell you that the main reason they bought the car was for "Free Supercharging", and £100K for the car to get $600 a year for Gas is crazy-talk. But we all love a bargain But my purcashe was as much for Eco Early Adopter as it was for performance or anything else.Normal people who can afford $60k+ cars, do not worry about paying $1 to $5 dollars extra for plugging in early for a special trip
Neat; hadn't heard that. Most of the 3rd party APPs I use don't provide a "charge ready for departure time" in case there is a power cut and they will be sued or whatever as a consequence. Nuts. I'd be happy to take that risk, it would be a very rare thing to get caught outThe i-Pace has Departure Charging according to JLR. So you plug it in when you get home, and it starts charging based on your END OF SUPER-OFFPEAK time schedule.
Presume you are referring to Departure Charging? Definitely not got that. Scheduled Charging starts at appointed time (start of my off-peak period in my case). It is smart enough to decide that if I come home a few hours after that time that it should still start charging anyway, rather than "do nothing until tomorrow night :frown2 so that part is OK.Did Tesla ever get that corrected yet?
No telling what might arrive over the airwaves at the next update of course, but there are plenty of "Why haven't they build my [INSERT KILLED FEATURE HERE] yet", which is purely a consequence of the whole OTA ability creating an expectation in the consumerso I assume ... can do it by now.
And in areas where most EVs are sold, there are a large number of DCFCs although normally only 50kW.We have loads nearby too. (I looked on Plugshare recently and was really surprised), But 90% of them are one-pump sites so cannot be sure if will be free when you get there. And all have absolutely rubbish maintenance as I mentioned earlier. That's probably because government handed out money for people to install these things, originally, so no incentive to actually make them work Hopefully the whole "Have a nice day" service attitude in USA means that you have better service FULL STOP
I don't think this stuff is as big a deal as many folk seem to think. Including the 800volt 400KW or whatever Porsche stuff.The i-Pace is programmed at this point at 100kW max. But an engineer stated they can change that up to 120kW through software should 120kW charging become available.
Yes it definitely needs to be faster than 32 AMP and indeed 100 kW is probably the minimum.
If you are driving coast to coast and have multiple charges to do speed will be nice. But if you just need "enough to get home" I really really doubt that the difference is important. I do that sort of charging quite often (i.e. when my out-and-back day trip exceeds my max 220 mile range by a bit) It would be very rare for e to need more than 80 miles extra and that would take 15 minutes; by the time I've walked to the services and had a pee, and maybe got a coffee or a chocolate bar, and walked back I've used up most/all the 15 minutes. If it was 7 minutes I would still go have a pee and get a coffee .. and often I don't need as much as 80 miles extra.
If the charge happened in 1 minute then, yeah, I'd skip the pee and coffee but I'd have still used up 5 minutes just getting off the highway and parking up, and then getting back onto the highway ... and if there isn't a suitable rapid charger right-on-my-route I have the extra detour-time to divert to its location (until they are on every street corner, like Fossil Pumps ) so all in all dramatically faster isn't really a great practical help IMHO
Agreed. We still have an ICE on the driveway ... although it is a small hatchback and more often used for pubic car parks (bays here are small and Tesla is huge) rather than long distance - I take the Tesla for long distance out of principle - I like to think I'm doing my bit for the planet.All EVs currently are inferior for interstate, anywhere, anytime travel