I-Pace bahn-storming at max speed

Ah no way, my old haunts, A7 Hamburg-Flensburg!
It's worth watching IMO, pretty entertaining.
Take-homes: great performance, insane consumption, super quiet cabin at high speeds, 'nimble' in the parking lot

Oh yeah, the other take-home: "The regen is strong with this one"
Clearly there's some Jedi power in there

sciencegeek said:

Ah no way, my old haunts, A7 Hamburg-Flensburg!
It's worth watching IMO, pretty entertaining.
Take-homes: great performance, insane consumption, super quiet cabin at high speeds, 'nimble' in the parking lot

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How high was the insane consumption? I'm guessing you mean insanely bad, right? Surprisingly low distance per kWh at high speeds?

Well not surprising. Wind resistance at 120mph is four times that at 60mph.

He starts with an estimated range of 248km, drives 40km, at which point the estimated range is down to 127km.

I don't know how Jaguar calculates the remaining range, but his instrument gauge shows an average consumption of 60kWh per 100km. That'll get you roughly 90 miles on a full charge at those speeds, haha!

phil said:

How high was the insane consumption? I'm guessing you mean insanely bad, right? Surprisingly low distance per kWh at high speeds?

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Looks like around 640Wh/km, aka 1030Wh/mile, at 200km/h

Looking at the same guy's Model X bahn-storm, X is about 980Wh/mile.

Speed and consumption in both videos is variable due to traffic, so it's not a scientific comparison

And of course, the X's speed is constrained by over-heating by the end of its video.

Riggald said:

Looks like around 640Wh/km, aka 1030Wh/mile, at 200km/h

Looking at the same guy's Model X bahn-storm, X is about 980Wh/mile.

Speed and consumption in both videos is variable due to traffic, so it's not a scientific comparison

And of course, the X's speed is constrained by over-heating by the end of its video.

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I also noticed when comparing Bjorn's I-Pace run to the earlier Model X run, he accelerated the I-Pace using wide open throttle each time, where in the Model X he was much more gentle, he also slowed the I-Pace several times using heavy regen followed by full throttle accelerations (Obviously trying to overheat the I-Pace which he failed to do) each of those regen - accelerations wasted a large percentage of the energy (reflected in the overall consumption trip)... Just speculation on my part, but the I-Pace is probably more efficient at a steady 200km/h then Bjorn's, Model X, and it is a quieter, more comfortable, and better handling to boot.

Not exactly an economy car... depending on driving style and conditions.
Tesla S seems to be EPA rated under 400 Wh/mi.

Time2Roll said:

Not exactly an economy car... depending on driving style and conditions.
Tesla S seems to be EPA rated under 400 Wh/mi.

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Yes, consumption is high, but we are a family with 2 full size SUV's and a diesel pickup (for work) so not really looking for an economy car.

EPA testing does not average over 70MPH, because those speeds are illegal in most of the USA. Also to get a trip average over 70, the highest speeds have to be much higher and accelerations quick. Take any car on a road trip of 150 miles and try to average over 70mph, it will require sections of the drive to be over 75-80 mph to pull up the average of the slower parts of the drive.

X is EPA-rated 390Wh/mile, at an average of 48mph, including charging losses.

The EPA Highway cycle : averages 48mph, and has a peak speed of 53mph.

WLTP "Extra High" cycle averages about 71mph, and peaks at 73mph. But never gets published on its own.

Time2Roll said:

Not exactly an economy car... depending on driving style and conditions.
Tesla S seems to be EPA rated under 400 Wh/mi.

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Neither Tesla nor Jaguar have any immediate plans for an economy car.
No EV/hybrid pays for itself in fuel savings when compared to current ICE offerings in the US. $13k MSRP cars get 39 mpg hwy EPA but discounts are available.

You buy an EV because it's a superior driving and ownership experience today.

Trivia - Did a round trip in an EV Friday. 63.5 map miles, 13.1 kWh consumed, roundtrip, 2,520 feet elevation change, 9 miles surface streets, the rest freeways. Cost of car? $28,200 total new. Will it ever pay for itself? Unlikely.

McRat said:

Neither Tesla nor Jaguar have any immediate plans for an economy car.
No EV/hybrid pays for itself in fuel savings when compared to current ICE offerings in the US. $13k MSRP cars get 39 mpg hwy EPA but discounts are available.

You buy an EV because it's a superior driving and ownership experience today.

Trivia - Did a round trip in an EV Friday. 63.5 map miles, 13.1 kWh consumed, roundtrip, 2,520 feet elevation change, 9 miles surface streets, the rest freeways. Cost of car? $28,200 total new. Will it ever pay for itself? Unlikely.

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Wow, you are back.... Welcome...

I have been on the sideline waiting to buy an EV since I had my 2012 Volt, the I-Pace is the first to check all of my boxes, and a great replacement for our Range Rover. Had both S and X Tesla's reserved but just did not like the quality when I actually got to drive them... Loved the drivetrain...

I think the I-pace and E-tron are both going to sell all they can build, but certainly nothing more then a mosquito bite to Tesla.