[KevinDell]

Yes, I agree with that as well. If my car and battery lasts to end of the battery guarantee, then I would probably have a new battery fitted at my cost. Keep the old very useable battery for house solar system.

Most probably unnecessary…check out this recent thread:

https://www.i-paceforum.com/posts/96886/

 

[dernotte]

Every studies tend to prove that the longevity of a battery is way beyond the car's life. (around 15-20 years). The probability that you need to change the battery is very small.

 

[Snowflake]

But I read in the news that...

Nissan truly screwed the pooch with their first gen Leaf killing the batteries with bad management. Also, our phone companies are jerks for charging phones to a true 100% over and over, killing those batteries too. Some laptops have 80% limiting options, at least.

 

[rcomeau]

Every studies tend to prove that the longevity of a battery is way beyond the car's life. (around 15-20 years). The probability that you need to change the battery is very small.

We are finding that battery chemistry is often not the rate limiting step, but manufacturing quality is as all the recalls for the many, many EVs have shown. I may not have had to pay for a new battery, but we are all losing the value of a battery in resale value, so the results are the same.

 

[dernotte]

My Nissan Leaf is 10 years old and the SOH is between 80 and 85%. The resale value is between 5k and 8k$, probably the same as an small compact ICE car with 10 years on the clock, with or without battery, does not make any difference.

 

[rslvid]

The exceptions to all of that are the 2019 US cars involved in recall H484 where the owners opted and got full replacement batteries. Nit picking: it's 72% not 73%.

I just received a new replacement battery pack (12/12/24 not just cells) under the H484 recall, and my 2019 is now limited to the 80% charging cap. JLR says "That's just the way it is for all 2019's". I had no H514 recall notice in Topix.

MY19 : ICTP S22A : TCU 20.2

 

[abgwin]

I just received a new replacement battery pack (12/12/24 not just cells) under the H484 recall, and my 2019 is now limited to the 80% charging cap. JLR says "That's just the way it is for all 2019's". I had no H514 recall notice in Topix.

MY19 : ICTP S22A : TCU 20.2

wait, what? that doesn't make any sense at all. The cars under h484 are not subject to h514 so the charging should not be limited.
But you did in fact receive a new battery pack? I'd like to know more, as my dealer is getting a bit of a runaround in terms of how they can order the pack.

 

[rslvid]

wait, what? that doesn't make any sense at all. The cars under h484 are not subject to h514 so the charging should not be limited.
But you did in fact receive a new battery pack? I'd like to know more, as my dealer is getting a bit of a runaround in terms of how they can order the pack.

Yes. My 2019 was under the H484 recall. I received 3 options, buy back, trade in, new battery pack. Having a fully loaded HSE with only 14K miles on it, I opted for the new battery pack. I waited about 3 months for the battery. Service was completed on 12/12/24 (last week!). The shop could only charge it to 80%. They said, “JLR is restricting all I-Pace’s to 80% charge now.” I protested. It’s still in the shop awaiting further responses from JLR.

 

[KevinDell]

Since you have TCU version 20.2, you should be able to see (under software update screen) the BECS version…if this starts “BY…” then the dealer has, contrary to JLR instruction, installed the H514 software! Oops!

 

[dplaser]

Yes. My 2019 was under the H484 recall. I received 3 options, buy back, trade in, new battery pack. Having a fully loaded HSE with only 14K miles on it, I opted for the new battery pack. I waited about 3 months for the battery. Service was completed on 12/12/24 (last week!). The shop could only charge it to 80%. They said, “JLR is restricting all I-Pace’s to 80% charge now.” I protested. It’s still in the shop awaiting further responses from JLR.

Good luck with that new battery pack assembly. You probably made the right decision as trade in for these cars really are hard to get any real money now, maybe something like 14K or so if you are lucky. My service manager said somebody negotiated a 2021 I pace for only 18K. It is unbelievable as the market simply does not want these cars as most EV's are suffering as well. It appears Lucid is on it's last legs too.

 

[Jeffterry]

Yes. My 2019 was under the H484 recall. I received 3 options, buy back, trade in, new battery pack. Having a fully loaded HSE with only 14K miles on it, I opted for the new battery pack. I waited about 3 months for the battery. Service was completed on 12/12/24 (last week!). The shop could only charge it to 80%. They said, “JLR is restricting all I-Pace’s to 80% charge now.” I protested. It’s still in the shop awaiting further responses from JLR.

Good for you, insisting on 100% charge.I always thought that Jaguars 100% was 80% anyway. I seem to remember reading this somewhere, anyone else? I need my 400km range and still getting it, 412 last time. Cheers everyone.

 

[Qtown charger]

Is it possible that H541 included the H484 vehicles? In which case legally although you have a new battery, the recall states that all 2019 vehicles will be restricted. Perhaps poorly worded recall terms written by folks not thinking.

 

[rcomeau]

Is it possible that H541 included the H484 vehicles? In which case legally although you have a new battery, the recall states that all 2019 vehicles will be restricted. Perhaps poorly worded recall terms written by folks not thinking.

It is certainly an edge case they either did not consider (how many H484 new battery packs are requested?). Maybe they decided not to have to add the extra trouble of distinguishing between which 2019 has what and just pull them all in. It does seem strange that they'd even go ahead and replace them at all then (2 wasted packs in these cases).

 

[Ayepace]

Is it possible that H541 included the H484 vehicles? In which case legally although you have a new battery, the recall states that all 2019 vehicles will be restricted. Perhaps poorly worded recall terms written by folks not thinking.

H514 description.

See last sentence.

See first sentence.

 

[Qtown charger]

Then dealerships need to learn to read. It seems fairly clear and obvious.

 

[rslvid]

H514 description.

See last sentence.
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See first sentence.

View attachment 8975

Ayepace, could you please include or link to both of these full documents so that I can use them for reference? I sense a battle with JLR coming on in my case…

 

[Ayepace]

See previous posts in this thread or visit www.nhtsa.gov/recalls and look at recall docs for 2019 jaguar i-pace.

 

[Photon2.0eV]

New battery pack installed in my 2019 FE under H484 in August 2024 and no outstanding campaigns is indicated in Topix.

 

[AmidalaLvr]

Confirming that although my car charged successfully to 100% after the initial H514 software remedy, I subsequently had to have the BCCM replaced (no charging at all) and I'm now "Charge Complete" at 80% with 199 miles on the GOM, as expected.

That is really weird because after my update they couldn't charge the car and the BCCM had to be replaced too...

 

[MarciHaskell]

@Ayepace Maybe they had temporarily inserted the "buyback" language just to coax holdouts like you and I who refuse to have the 80% restriction applied to our vehicles with no permanent resolution in sight Possibly they were hoping that if we heard that we are required to have the 80% update applied before any buybacks are offered, we will give in

My dealer applied it without my permission when I had to replace a battery module. I was livid when I became limited to a full charge at only 80%. I want to be part of any class action lawsuit that is filed.