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Really interesting read about real world range tests of EV. So interesting that despite all the bluster and putting down the Tesla Fan boys have lobbed against the I-Pace, that in the real world tests some show that the I-Pace has longer legs.

1. Hyundai Kona Electric, 259 miles
2. Jaguar I-Pace, 253 miles
2. Kia e-Niro, 253 miles
4. Tesla Model X (P100D), 233 miles
5. Tesla Model S 75kWh, 204 miles
6. Audi e-tron, 196 miles
7. BMW i3 120Ah, 165 miles
8. Hyundai Kona electric 39kWh, 158 miles
9. Renault Zoe R110, 146 miles
10. Nissan Leaf, 128 miles

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/advice/electric-cars-best-real-world-range?fbclid=IwAR3l1Vraqf4v0nHVZJkUoCHKA7O4bmFZI0nT84ZEvYK_z9lMhC1nylQy5_o
 

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the 2020 is pushing 282 miles, I did NOT drive it conservatively by any stretch and easily got 165 with 101 miles left on the range.
 

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Ok I don't remember all the Tesla configurations but it doesn't seem fair to include only the small-battery Model S and the highest performance model of the X. But at any rate, the iPace is no slacker.
 

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I read the article you provided the link for, and they claim to have only gotten slightly more than 200 miles during their test as opposed to the 253 as noted above. I don’t seem to get much more than 200 either on a regular basis.
 

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the 2020 is pushing 282 miles, I did NOT drive it conservatively by any stretch and easily got 165 with 101 miles left on the range.
Yeah, I wonder if that has anything to do with the battery rumor? Love to hear more as you drive more. How you liking your new vehicle?
 

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Ugh! Had a big night tonight planned and the Ipace would have stole to show at a black tie event. However, I was late and it had to be towed... why??? because the 120 miles it said I would get on the way home turned into 45 miles. I dont know what happened, but I began eating battery like a 6 year old android. Its in the garage now on the charger. Jaguar has an appointment for next week. But here is my best guess

1. I gave the dealership a list of things to make sure they did based on the info from this forum

- they DID NOT deflate the tires to the proper PSI so I had to go back
- I dont believe they updated my software either, although I specifically asked to make sure it happened

The manager that I ordered this with was sent to a different store and the new management ... well lets just say they probably wouldn't have gotten my 2 purchases this year. Im not impressed. Its difficult to separate a dealer from the manufacturer, but on another note

I must have had 26 people ... and Im not exaggerating, talk to me or honk and give me the thumbs up on the car.. its gorgeous. But these dealerships arent pulling their weight.

Ill try to get a picture of the luggage, very high quality stuff and very nice looking
 

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I just noticed the Chevy Bolt is not on the list because it is a UK publication. It’s a shame because that little car at 60KWHr actually has a very good real life range, and in fact I tended to get about the same or a little more range out of the Bolt in similar driving conditions than the I Pace.

Yes I know the I Pace is bigger, heavier and h**l of a lot more fun per mile, so just an observation.
 

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Ugh! Had a big night tonight planned and the Ipace would have stole to show at a black tie event. However, I was late and it had to be towed... why??? because the 120 miles it said I would get on the way home turned into 45 miles. I dont know what happened, but I began eating battery like a 6 year old android. Its in the garage now on the charger. Jaguar has an appointment for next week. But here is my best guess

1. I gave the dealership a list of things to make sure they did based on the info from this forum

- they DID NOT deflate the tires to the proper PSI so I had to go back
- I dont believe they updated my software either, although I specifically asked to make sure it happened
The range estimate is the car's best guess based on your average rate of consumption over the latest recent drives. What exactly that involves is unknown to me - is it the last 3 trips, the last 24 hours of driving activity, the last 3 days of driving or a combination or something else? I don't know. However, I have found that it is actually very accurate if I am doing what I have typically done over the last couple days. So if I have been primarily making short trips around town for the last few days and continue that same driving pattern my average consumption stays consistent, therefore the estimated range is correct. However I better not expect that range if I now decide to take a trip on the highway as it will be nothing close to accurate and as you discovered will adjust down about 10 miles every couple miles.

What I have found more helpful than the car's estimated range is to calculate my range based on my current trips average consumption rate. You can see that in the Eco Data screen or in the trip meter or likely a few other areas depending on your screen configurations. In my experience, that average consumption rate is a great way to predict the range, provided your driving is relatively consistent on that trip. This is really helpful if you are in a situation in which you think you will be traveling close to the end of your battery and provides you a better opportunity to look for plan b's sooner than hoping the car's range estimate is good.

The Eco Data screen is also helpful in order to squeeze the extra miles from the car. Look at the Range Impact area to determine what accessories are sucking juice and then adjust/turn-off as desired. For instance you will notice ventilated seats have minimal impact, but the AC compressor is a big hog. The difference between Eco mode and low power mode is not huge. Note if you select low power mode it turns everything off, even the things that make close to zero difference like the radio and the center screens. You can turn those back on without exiting low power mode. You can even turn the HVAC fans back on (they have a small impact, but not much). Speed is a big killer, cruising at 70mph uses a lot more juice than cruising at 55mph. You can mitigate that difference by using the auto-follow feature and draft a semi :wink2:

BTW - deflating the tires will have a negative impact on range, so if that is an important consideration, over-inflate, not under-inflate
 

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The range estimate is the car's best guess based on your average rate of consumption over the latest recent drives. What exactly that involves is unknown to me - is it the last 3 trips, the last 24 hours of driving activity, the last 3 days of driving or a combination or something else? I don't know. However, I have found that it is actually very accurate if I am doing what I have typically done over the last couple days. So if I have been primarily making short trips around town for the last few days and continue that same driving pattern my average consumption stays consistent, therefore the estimated range is correct. However I better not expect that range if I now decide to take a trip on the highway as it will be nothing close to accurate and as you discovered will adjust down about 10 miles every couple miles.


BTW - deflating the tires will have a negative impact on range, so if that is an important consideration, over-inflate, not under-inflate
uhh, just bought it Friday so I have no real usage data.... but I get it... a hard lesson. btw, not drafting any semi's I did draft a shuttle bus though. I had a cracked windshield from semi's on 3 vehicles over the last 16 months!

BTW, one of the big issues is lack of chargers on my route and the most devastating was a DC fast charger 11 miles of the route, but when I got there it was disabled!!!!!
 

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uhh, just bought it Friday so I have no real usage data.... but I get it... a hard lesson. btw, not drafting any semi's I did draft a shuttle bus though. I had a cracked windshield from semi's on 3 vehicles over the last 16 months!

BTW, one of the big issues is lack of chargers on my route and the most devastating was a DC fast charger 11 miles of the route, but when I got there it was disabled!!!!!
Just in case you are not familiar, I highly recommend PlugShare. It is generally quite accurate.

I live in the land of few DC chargers. The closest one for me is 193 miles away, so it is barely in range, even in good weather.

Until you get a good feel for what your car does for you, for planning purposes I would suggest not to expect more than 2.5 miles/kWh (40kWh/100 miles) at highway speeds. You can then estimate your remaining range using a total battery capacity of 84kWh. There is a good chance you will have better efficiency than that, but unless you have a string wind or cold temps, it shouldn’t be too much worse
 

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Plugshare rocks. Just be a cool guy and check in so people know you're there and using it. It sucks when people don't do that, and you get there and that funky Leaf is there soaking up the electrons.
 

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Plugshare rocks. Just be a cool guy and check in so people know you're there and using it. It sucks when people don't do that, and you get there and that funky Leaf is there soaking up the electrons.
and if you get there and it’s isn’t working, call the provider to report it so it can get fixed and leave feedback on PlugShare so others know there is a problem
 

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My testing on both commutes and long distance driving I find that there is a sweet spot of 55 or 56 mph, staying in that I get about 248 miles of range with the air condition/heat off. For each single MPH over that my range reduces by a corresponding 4 miles in range. Thus, at:
60 only 240,
61 only 236,
62 only 232,
63 only 228,
64 only 224,
65 only 220,
70 only 200,
80 only 160.

Air condition brings everything down about another 10% loss in range

Has worked really well so far in planning purposes. Anyone have other experience.

OBTW - I am running 20" wheels at tires at 41 psi
 

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My testing on both commutes and long distance driving I find that there is a sweet spot of 55 or 56 mph, staying in that I get about 248 miles of range with the air condition/heat off. For each single MPH over that my range reduces by a corresponding 4 miles in range. Thus, at:
60 only 240,
61 only 236,
62 only 232,
63 only 228,
64 only 224,
65 only 220,
70 only 200,
80 only 160.

Air condition brings everything down about another 10% loss in range

Has worked really well so far in planning purposes. Anyone have other experience.

OBTW - I am running 20" wheels at tires at 41 psi

I have 20s at 37 psi, and I'd say the higher speed mileage is close to my experience on my recent longer trip running the a/c (but no seat cooling).



That's the only time I paid close enough attention to have an opinion, since I drive so little my home recharge at 50% SOC takes at least a week or ten days to occur.
 

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Just in case you are not familiar, I highly recommend PlugShare. It is generally quite accurate.

I live in the land of few DC chargers. The closest one for me is 193 miles away, so it is barely in range, even in good weather.

Until you get a good feel for what your car does for you, for planning purposes I would suggest not to expect more than 2.5 miles/kWh (40kWh/100 miles) at highway speeds. You can then estimate your remaining range using a total battery capacity of 84kWh. There is a good chance you will have better efficiency than that, but unless you have a string wind or cold temps, it shouldn’t be too much worse
I used plugshare and chargepoint. There is a 50 mile hole where no charges exist on my route. I maybe could have just made it home but we backtracked 11 miles for a DC Fast charger that didnt work. So far in the city of Columbus GA, there are NO operating fastchargers ugh.. Nothing listed works. I reported and guess what? They had already been reported. A "ticket" Greenlots said was out to fix one and the other is still reporting operable but plugshare hasn't updated. Its a real drag when you are low sitting at a level 2 charger for 2 hours to get home. I wont make that mistake again
 

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My testing on both commutes and long distance driving I find that there is a sweet spot of 55 or 56 mph, staying in that I get about 248 miles of range with the air condition/heat off
My rule-of-thumb when road tripping in my I-PACE is "Charge to 90% and plan on getting 150 miles out of it. Unless you're climbing a mountain, in which case charge to 100% and expect to get 100 miles. Cut by 25% with cold weather, heavy rain, a headwind, or when going 80 mph." I could get more precise, but it's far easier to just "charge to 90% and go" under uninteresting driving conditions.
 

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We are getting 225 miles in our 2019. Highway driving going 75 most of the way. Mid 80’s F with AC running. About what I expected given the load from the AC and the highway speed.
 

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In my first 2 weeks (1000 mi) with my 2020 HSE (after 7 months in a 2019 FE), with consistent and heavy (3-5 setting) AC use (mid-90s daily here in Southwest FL) and a 50/50 mix of highway (75+) and city driving, my 2020 GoM is consistently in the 205-215 range at 100% SOC. Anyone expecting better range out of a 2020 than a 2019 is misguided. Take the discounted deal on the 2019 if that's an option... ;-)
 
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