[Ormond]

I drove 80 miles to the nearest Jaguar dealership to drive the I-Pace HSE. I’ve got a Tesla Model X, so I wanted to compare the two vehicles.

The Jaguar definitely seemed to handle and ride better than the Model X. The X is larger and higher, and has a rougher ride. The interior of the Jaguar was finished nicely and more conventional. I liked the surround view cameras.

I’ve been driving the Tesla for over two years, and like my big center display. The visibility in the Tesla is superior and I normally keep my rear camera always displayed. The biggest benefit is the Tesla supercharger network. On my return trip home, I stopped at a supercharger for 30 minutes and went for a brisk walk.

I’ve got a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Would I be able to use it for the Jaguar? The salesman said that the Chargepoint solution costs about $1,500.

I’ve got to decide if the Jaguar will work for me.

 

[Time2Roll]

Yes the 14-50 will charge the I-Pace at the full 7 kW rate. Clipper Creek is $600 plug and play. Model HCS-40.
Actually with an adapter you can use your existing Tesla wall charger. $239 from Quick Charge Power

https://shop.quickchargepower.com/JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm

 

[Dantrium]

I’ve got a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Would I be able to use it for the Jaguar? The salesman said that the Chargepoint solution costs about $1,500.

I’ve got to decide if the Jaguar will work for me.

You can buy an adapter and use your Tesla home charger if you have one. Otherwise you have a lot of choices & none of them come close to $1500.

The plug in ChargePoint is $699 on Amazon right now, but they seem to go on sale frequently.

 

[dtgsrq]

$1500 only if you need extensive electrical work or a long run to plug location. Cost me only half that. I bought the ChargePoint Home 25 (plug in version) for $559 (sorry, post-holidays its now $699) after having a NEMA 6-50 outlet dropped (right below my panels in the garage - see pic) for about $200. I installed (hung on the wall with 3 screws, really) the ChargePoint box myself in about 20 min and just plugged into the NEMA 6-50 outlet. Very easy. I'm pretty sure you could use a converter or have the outlet changed from NEMA 14-50 to the NEMA 6-50 plug as both are similarly rated for 50A, but the 6-50 doesn't use the neutral wire found on the fourth pin of the 14-50. (I'm NOT an electrician, so please verify with someone qualified :wink2

 

[Sbingham60]

You can buy an adapter and use your Tesla home charger if you have one. Otherwise you have a lot of choices & none of them come close to $1500.

The plug in ChargePoint is $699 on Amazon right now, but they seem to go on sale frequently.

The cost really depends on features that you want. I purchased a Mustart 40amp on Amazon for $399. Should have bought the 32amp since I-pace tops out at around 7kW. Also had 14-50 connector installed for $50 labor + parts. If you want WiFi connection to your EVSE, you’ll pay more. The Mustart is basic charge only, so I manage through the car or InContol app.

ChargePoint will have deals if you look around. JuiceBox on Amazon is $579 with WiFi.

 

[sciencegeek]

Read this thread
https://www.i-paceforum.com/forum/5...1-most-flexible-i-pace-charging-solution.html

 

[jsimon7777]

I’ve been driving the Tesla for over two years, and like my big center display. The visibility in the Tesla is superior and I normally keep my rear camera always displayed. The biggest benefit is the Tesla supercharger network. On my return trip home, I stopped at a supercharger for 30 minutes and went for a brisk walk.

Do you mean visibility as in looking all around, or visibility as in the big rear view display?

I find that, for driving, having the video on the display down there is a dangerous distraction. You want your eyes up, not down. That said, I liked having the rear view camera in my truck. It let me check the load, which the mirror wouldn't show.

In terms of other visibility, the ipace has cameras on the sides of the front and rear. When you back out of a space, you can set the rear side cameras to show you what's out there. You can do the same with the front end. It's a great safety feature, especially at our house.

 

[McRat]

I'm so used to driving cars with poor visibility including no back window, only the digital rearview tech seems to help. Neither JLR or Tesla has bothered with this tech, which allows you to see through the headrests, pillars, passengers, and cargo. Side mirrors are good on EV400, with good blind spot warning and lane change danger physical warning system (pulls the wheel).

 

[PGhiron]

I'm so used to driving cars with poor visibility including no back window, only the digital rearview tech seems to help. Neither JLR or Tesla has bothered with this tech, which allows you to see through the headrests, pillars, passengers, and cargo. Side mirrors are good on EV400, with good blind spot warning and lane change danger physical warning system (pulls the wheel).

@McRat Have you tested any aftermarket Digital Rear View systems, and if so do you have any recommendations for installing one in the Ipace? I love the idea.

 

[fedorachef]

I drove 80 miles to the nearest Jaguar dealership to drive the I-Pace HSE. I’ve got a Tesla Model X, so I wanted to compare the two vehicles.

The Jaguar definitely seemed to handle and ride better than the Model X. The X is larger and higher, and has a rougher ride. The interior of the Jaguar was finished nicely and more conventional. I liked the surround view cameras.

I’ve been driving the Tesla for over two years, and like my big center display. The visibility in the Tesla is superior and I normally keep my rear camera always displayed. The biggest benefit is the Tesla supercharger network. On my return trip home, I stopped at a supercharger for 30 minutes and went for a brisk walk.

I’ve got a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Would I be able to use it for the Jaguar? The salesman said that the Chargepoint solution costs about $1,500.

I’ve got to decide if the Jaguar will work for me.

I had a 2016 Model X 90D and traded for the I-Pace. Couple things I miss about the Tesla, but overall I prefer the Jag. I do miss the large view for the rear camera. I used it 24/7 until they rolled out v9 software; I hardly ever had to use my rear view mirror. I've heard JLR doesn't allow the rear camera to be on all the time because of distraction, but I know that's not true. It helps significantly as you know.

I don't get as much range on the I-Pace; the MX is more efficient. I'm getting around 190 miles real world range per charge. There's a lot of discussion on range in the forum and you'll see different numbers from different drivers. I bought the Chargepoint charger from amazon on sale w/ 25' cord for $600 and installed everything myself. Maybe $1500 includes installation, but that sounds high to me. One of the first things my friends and family notice on the I-Pace was much better ride and sound installation. It's awesome to drive and build quality is far above Tesla IMO.

 

[McRat]

@McRat Have you tested any aftermarket Digital Rear View systems, and if so do you have any recommendations for installing one in the Ipace? I love the idea.

I own a Cadillac with it, and have driven the Bolt Premier a few times with it.

It's not perfect, but as a safety device, it's excellent. Lower resolution, a lower FPS rate, short focal distance, and no binocular vision are it's limitations. But it is far better than an optical mirror in detecting surrounding cars especially with adult passengers in the back.

I'm debating installing one in the I-Pace. I almost ordered it, but have quality fears.

 

[McRat]

I had a 2016 Model X 90D and traded for the I-Pace. Couple things I miss about the Tesla, but overall I prefer the Jag. I do miss the large view for the rear camera. I used it 24/7 until they rolled out v9 software; I hardly ever had to use my rear view mirror. I've heard JLR doesn't allow the rear camera to be on all the time because of distraction, but I know that's not true. It helps significantly as you know.

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AFAIK, no MFR except Tesla is allowing video broadcast content on the center screen while driving. I'd guess Fear Of Lawyers is most the issue. Tesla has far less FOL than other MFR's, probably because they have never lost more than $1 billion in a liability suit yet. Pretty much everyone else has.

There might be a way to bypass the limitation by emulating a PARK signal to the entertainment computer bus wiring. However, there are 2 methods they can use. One is a simple wire signal (PARK = ???, DRIVE = ???), but the other is polling which will be much harder to defeat. That is, the Entertainment computer asks which gear is the car is in, and the PCM replies with a ASCII or binary reply. I'm betting on the wire method which is more common since it reduces processor demand on the PCM and keeps the bus quieter.

 

[Ninja911]

I drove 80 miles to the nearest Jaguar dealership to drive the I-Pace HSE. I’ve got a Tesla Model X, so I wanted to compare the two vehicles.

The Jaguar definitely seemed to handle and ride better than the Model X. The X is larger and higher, and has a rougher ride. The interior of the Jaguar was finished nicely and more conventional. I liked the surround view cameras.

I’ve been driving the Tesla for over two years, and like my big center display. The visibility in the Tesla is superior and I normally keep my rear camera always displayed. The biggest benefit is the Tesla supercharger network. On my return trip home, I stopped at a supercharger for 30 minutes and went for a brisk walk.

I’ve got a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Would I be able to use it for the Jaguar? The salesman said that the Chargepoint solution costs about $1,500.

I’ve got to decide if the Jaguar will work for me.

I had a 2016 Model X 90D and traded for the I-Pace. Couple things I miss about the Tesla, but overall I prefer the Jag. I do miss the large view for the rear camera. I used it 24/7 until they rolled out v9 software; I hardly ever had to use my rear view mirror. I've heard JLR doesn't allow the rear camera to be on all the time because of distraction, but I know that's not true. It helps significantly as you know.

I don't get as much range on the I-Pace; the MX is more efficient. I'm getting around 190 miles real world range per charge. There's a lot of discussion on range in the forum and you'll see different numbers from different drivers. I bought the Chargepoint charger from amazon on sale w/ 25' cord for $600 and installed everything myself. Maybe $1500 includes installation, but that sounds high to me. One of the first things my friends and family notice on the I-Pace was much better ride and sound installation. It's awesome to drive and build quality is far above Tesla IMO.

What was the reasons for tracing the Model X for the Jaguar? I own a model 3 Performance love it and Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT. I was looking to consolidate to one electric suv and was looking at the x as my first choice!

 

[dtgsrq]

Ninja911, it depends if you value handling more than raw speed. MX is faster at higher trim levels, yes, but rougher, sloppier ride and has much greater body roll. Handling is the I-Pace's strength. The other big divide is the interior: one big screen or not. I'd be curious on your take of the Model 3 Performance's handling vs. the I-Pace. I've never driven the performance model.

 

[Ninja911]

Ninja911, it depends if you value handling more than raw speed. MX is faster at higher trim levels, yes, but rougher, sloppier ride and has much greater body roll. Handling is the I-Pace's strength. The other big divide is the interior: one big screen or not. I'd be curious on your take of the Model 3 Performance's handling vs. the I-Pace. I've never driven the performance model.

Hmmm , I see. I am slightly skeptical at some of the issues people have been experiencing with the I-Pace , not that the Model X was immune. The Model 3 handles unbelievably well. Track mode on the streets is like a baby ludicrous mode . I will have to see if I can get a test drive out of Jaguar ? What specs did you get on the Jag?

 

[dtgsrq]

I originally spec'd out an HSE. Came with wrong headliner. Next day I bought a 95% match FE from another dealer.
You should definitely test drive the I-Pace against the Model X. Driving enthusiasts prefer the Jag. Image conscious prefer the MX. To each his own!

 

[sgtpeper]

As many things as I'm frustrated with regarding the Jag, the handling is not one of those items. I would say it's almost TOO serious - ie it's hard to get the rear to break free! It just grips! The air suspension really is cool and works incredibly well. The car feels very balanced for what it is.

It oddly sort of reminds me of my 911 Turbo because it doesn't have the "engine" in the front. The IPace sort of feels like a mid-engine vehicle.

 

[squishball]

First post. I agree with sgtpeper the handling of the I-Pace is the real star, even on 20" all-season tires. I rarely use its infotainment center, especially now that it's developed the BSOD, killing parktronic and all cameras. It handles similarly, but better, than my ancient 2001 Audi allroad, which the 500 lb. heavier I-Pace replaced. Mid corner understeer easily corrected by gentle addition of the right foot. I originally considered the Model 3, but it couldn't fit my toys (windsurfing gear), and the Model X was just too massive and ugly IMHO.