discount on the price of I-pace
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your friend is most likely lying, there are more USA customers for I-Pace then there are USA I-Paces, and JLR dealers are not discounting I-Pace at all, as a matter of fact, many are asking for additional markup on the cars that come in without an order. I-Pace only has about a 4% markup is the other reason I know that no dealers are giving a regular customer 3% off. That would be foolish... I have heard of a couple dealers that have been trading allocations.
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When I was bored this weekend I looked at Autotrader and pulled all the I Pace's up for sale. There were 73 in total from what I saw at that time. Most of the listings had the car still yet to arrive at the dealer.
Today I did some random speculative calls to various dealers listing cars inbound in the next few days.
None of them are coming off MSRP. Most are adding on somewhat ridiculous aftermarket items such as, paint protection, Jag mud flaps, Jag storage organizers, Jag etc. to just increase profit. Most dealers seem to think all the I Pace's will be sold within a few days of hitting their dealership's. I have to agree.
I especially know that dealers in Illinois are not negotiating off MSRP as this is where I grew up and still have family back there. I had them price the I-Pace there vs. AZ and neither are coming off MSRP even for previous Jag owners.
Today I did some random speculative calls to various dealers listing cars inbound in the next few days.
None of them are coming off MSRP. Most are adding on somewhat ridiculous aftermarket items such as, paint protection, Jag mud flaps, Jag storage organizers, Jag etc. to just increase profit. Most dealers seem to think all the I Pace's will be sold within a few days of hitting their dealership's. I have to agree.
I especially know that dealers in Illinois are not negotiating off MSRP as this is where I grew up and still have family back there. I had them price the I-Pace there vs. AZ and neither are coming off MSRP even for previous Jag owners.
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Several weeks ago, my dealer complained out loud to me, a customer, about the paltry dealer markup. Said something like "I have to spend 10 grand* installing a charger and I'm barely making any money on this car as it is." To be sure, he loves the car, but the economics for him personally aren't great. I didn't get the sense he was making any of that up as a negotiating tactic.
That said, I'll find out if there's any price flexibility in about 4 hours. I pick mine up today at 10AM mountain time. So stoked...
*I don't remember exactly how much he said it was costing him for the charger, but it was something like that.
Back in 2011 receiving one of the first LEAFs there were several dealers giving $1,000 discount on an order that took almost a year to fill. I guess times have changed. Might be the Tesla effect of moving to fixed pricing so we don't always feel ripped off like when buying a more common vehicle.
It would certainly grind on me if the dealer wants some flimsy add-on or ADM.
It would certainly grind on me if the dealer wants some flimsy add-on or ADM.
Can’t wait to hear about your car, congratulations! Please send pics!
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Which dealer did you end up going through with your purchase? Looks like Stevinson had a couple coming in soon that I wanted to go check out in person since we were out of town when they had it around September. I'm also interested in the pricing flexibility as well but our current lease isn't up until next summer so I hoping they'll be some incentives by then since the E-Tron should be available by that time for some pricing competition.
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I live in Colo Spgs (my dealer is JLR Colorado Springs). Here's the skinny from handover today:
Lease terms are pure garbage.
2 year residual 44%
Money Factor .00417
I paid cash, and didn't ask about financing rates, but I'm sure you can do better than those lease terms.
No pricing flexibility at all. They will not budge from MSRP. He did give me a nice book on the history of Jaguar and a couple bottles of wine. Which was a nice touch, in lieu of a price drop which was not forthcoming. Maybe other dealers are more flexible, but I doubt it.
Still, I would've paid $10K more for this car. It's unbelievable. My wife's comment: "It's like an amusement park ride."
The car is ridiculously fast and beautiful. Home run by Jag.
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Appreciate the info and huge congrats on the car! That is probably the worst 2 year residual I've ever seen on a lease. Even for a 3 year that is terrible, not to mention the money factor being atrocious. At least in CO we get the $5000 EV incentive on purchases in addition to the $7500 federal credit. It looks like we may be purchasing vs. leasing this next one if they don't improve by next summer. I'd entertain the Tesla Model X but find it hideous and the wife won't drive a sedan for her car...
I just got the lease numbers from my dealer:
39% residual with 0.00325 MF on a 39 month lease...it was like pulling teeth to get the numbers...
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Do they have the rates for 36 months?
Driving the I Pace & Pricing
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As promised I went to My Dealer last night. He had a Corris Grey with Oyster First Edition to drive and I loved it. It's the identical car to what I've ordered. Fast responsive the regen on high takes a while to get use to . Couple of comments The product specialist was kinda in the dark. It was the first car they got in. Everyone is in new territory. Ok pricing MSRP for those of us that have ordered cars. No discounts! They said they will get 4 cars in by year end, my order and 3 for stock. On the stock cars they will try to get a premium. Leasing he said ( top of his head) on a 3 year lease 10k miles per year he figured about $1500.00. I reminded him about the federal $7500 tax credit that JRL enjoys and no sales tax in NJ. Kinda looked like deer in the headlights. I'm waiting on a call back with actual numbers and will pass that on.
The power cord they give you is weak....It's a type one 120v cord that you would use for a snow blower. They recommend a Charge-Point 220 32-amp for home charging. Note: The Tesla's gave you all kinds of adapters that worked great.
Cost about $500.00 to $600.00 plus installation. Real weak point for first time EV owners. My car should be in by 11/29. Hopefully they will have their act together more by then. Regards
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As promised I went to My Dealer last night. He had a Corris Grey with Oyster First Edition to drive and I loved it. It's the identical car to what I've ordered. Fast responsive the regen on high takes a while to get use to . Couple of comments The product specialist was kinda in the dark. It was the first car they got in. Everyone is in new territory. Ok pricing MSRP for those of us that have ordered cars. No discounts! They said they will get 4 cars in by year end, my order and 3 for stock. On the stock cars they will try to get a premium. Leasing he said ( top of his head) on a 3 year lease 10k miles per year he figured about $1500.00. I reminded him about the federal $7500 tax credit that JRL enjoys and no sales tax in NJ. Kinda looked like deer in the headlights. I'm waiting on a call back with actual numbers and will pass that on.
The power cord they give you is weak....It's a type one 120v cord that you would use for a snow blower. They recommend a Charge-Point 220 32-amp for home charging. Note: The Tesla's gave you all kinds of adapters that worked great.
Cost about $500.00 to $600.00 plus installation. Real weak point for first time EV owners. My car should be in by 11/29. Hopefully they will have their act together more by then. Regards
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I'd be surprised if they don't have a 240V charging cable for that car ... maybe someone pilfered it. My order document states:
021GJ Charging Equipment-Var 1 (Basic)
188KA Charging Cables - Mode 2 Basic
So you should get both ...
021GJ Charging Equipment-Var 1 (Basic)
188KA Charging Cables - Mode 2 Basic
So you should get both ...
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I can confirm that only a 110v cable comes with the car. At least with my car. Maybe I got rooked.
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Yeah, the tax incentives in Colorado are pretty sweet. My accountant drives a MX and basically implored me to get a BEV when I met with him earlier this year.
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Probably not, it seems to be common practice to give the 110/15 amp max portable charged. I think it may have to do with regulations about wiring/electrical safety etc. Tesla provides one because they use non standard plugs and rates (which is a problem in itself) and they provide an adapter for the standard 220.
One thing to check for is some cars will default to only 8 or 10 amp limit on the 110 for older houses/wiring. If you are using a dedicated newer plug with no load on it see if you have high charging rate or 15 amp limit setting.
It took several days to get these, which I didn’t ask for. I asked for 24 & 36 months. I guess they aren’t really interested in leasing
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