Creep Mode 2019 Jaguar I-Pace

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Abs2780

Discussion Starter · Apr 16, 2019

Has anyone noticed their I Pace not moving smoothly going from Park to drive or Reverse?

Has anyone noticed crunching noise when moving from park to Drive or reverse?
Like it feels like the car is trying to go but it holds back until you tap on the Speed.
Note: While on Creep Mode, the Car should role smoothly without tapping on Gas paddle.
Please right your comments. Thank you.

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McRat

· #2 · Apr 16, 2019

Are you talking about the parking brake releasing? It will wear in and be less noticeable.
If you have your foot on the brake while it adjusts the ride height or releases the parking brake, it can grind a bit, which is the tires or brakes being moved an inch.

In the good old days, the engine would drown out a lot of the noises, and you'd just turn up the radio.

Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 16, 2019

Not sure, so my IPace does that almost every time I am going into drive, either reverse to drive or Park to drive. When I go from park to drive it feels like the breaks are trying to release than it stops and won’t roll until I tap on the gas paddle. Than it rolls like a normal car.

Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 16, 2019

So my I Pace is still at the dealer for over 2 weeks now. Dealer has seen what the car is doing and agrees that I Pace should move smoothly going from Park to drive or reverse with Creep mode on. The one thing that is concerning is that when when the dealer tested it going from Park to Drive, with creep mode on, the Car tried to roll like normal but it did not, it made scratching noise and the Park light came on. I did not pay attention to the park light coming on but the dealer did on multiple occasions. So they recorded what the car was doing and have sent it to UK for Jaguar engineers to tell them on a fix. Nothing yet the dealer has tested multiple things , such as breaks, batteries and now waiting on UK to decide what to do. The dealer tested other I Pace that were on their lots and all of them did the same thing. I think UK is testing the models out there at this time to see if it’s the same as they asked for the dealer to record a video and send it to them.

Does anyone hear little squirrels, like the suspension making noise when moving from Park? Or have noticed the Park light come on?

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McRat

· #5 · Apr 16, 2019

What happens when you manually release the parking brake?

When I was trying to help somebody by experimenting with my car, I somehow got it into a mode where the parking brake was on, but putting it into drive did not release it. I don't remember how though.

However, it took a certain sequence to do it. It is odd that multiple cars would do the same thing. I've driven 3 I-Paces, and played with CREEP ON and CREEP OFF and never noticed a problem EXCEPT... In Creep Off, the car will roll backwards in drive on a gentle slope.

Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 16, 2019

I have never manually released the parking brakes. I thought it goes on and off by itself. I have never put parking brakes on myself either. Just moving from park to drive it does this. Hopefully there is a fix for it so I can get my car back.

bruintoo

· #7 · Apr 16, 2019

McRat said:
What happens when you manually release the parking brake?

When I was trying to help somebody by experimenting with my car, I somehow got it into a mode where the parking brake was on, but putting it into drive did not release it. I don't remember how though.

However, it took a certain sequence to do it. It is odd that multiple cars would do the same thing. I've driven 3 I-Paces, and played with CREEP ON and CREEP OFF and never noticed a problem EXCEPT... In Creep Off, the car will roll backwards in drive on a gentle slope.

In my I-Pace, with CREEP OFF, the car will roll backwards on a slope. Sometimes, with CREEP OFF it will also roll forward on a slope when I let go of the brake during one pedal driving.

Meldev##44

· #8 · Apr 17, 2019

Two things I have noticed:

1. If I have not straightened the wheels before going from R to D, it seems to take a slight tap
on the accelerator to get going.

2. When I pull into the garage as the rear wheels transition into the flat of the garage floor,
you better be ready to break very quickly as creep mode acts a little "too" creepy and the
vehicle tends to take off. It doesn't help that my garage is on the short side and may run into the freezer located in front of the car.

Bottom line is I have noticed a few quirky things when selecting D or R.

Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 20, 2019

So I finally got my car back from the dealer . The dealer is saying that when the Parkland comes on the cars thinking it’s on a hill so the **** is this comes on but the funny part is we are parked on a flat surface in a parking lot . I had one of the sacrament of Jaguar’s service writers sit down with me in the car and we did a test coming from park to reverse and then park to drive and the purple light came on in the car did not creep as usual As it should creep forward. Anyways I brought the car home .
The new problem is the infotainment update . After the update My creep mode started to turn off by itself. I have to turn it on every time I drive, and it turns off by itself when I parked the car n turn it off. Sacramento service manager made me bring the car back in so he could witness the malfunction himself which he saw today so he will be contacting the engineers in the UK so they could release a new update to fix the issue .
The manager also witnessed my crunching noise in the front of the car which she thought was kind of loud and he thinks it’s probably the brakes so once he gets a fix from UK on what to do with the infotainment center then he will have him bring the car so they will do a full service on the brakes and suspension to make sure it’s not the brakes or the suspension making the noise.

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CyberSlug

· #10 · Apr 20, 2019

Creep mode not remembering it is On in 19A seems to be a fairly well known issue on the UK board. I have it turned off on mine so that particular bug won't bother me, but I can see it being very frustrating to those that want it on.

Sbingham60

· #11 · Apr 22, 2019

CyberSlug said:
Creep mode not remembering it is On in 19A seems to be a fairly well known issue on the UK board. I have it turned off on mine so that particular bug won't bother me, but I can see it being very frustrating to those that want it on.

Interesting - The release S19A_19.07.2-312706 was supposed to fix some of these things specific to the EV (I-Pace)
ELECTRIC VEHICLE SCREENS

Display will now work in low power mode.
Electric Vehicle (EV) button is now available on the Touchscreen (PHEV vehicles only).
Creep Mode not correctly displaying in the Touchscreen.
Estimated time to charge is no longer displayed unless a charging cable is connected to the vehicle.
Regenerative braking state can now be selected on-screen at start up

The more recent release - S19A_19.11.4-330884 has no fixes specific to EVs.

It's odd that the fix describes the fix as a display problem, whereas the behavior seems to affect the saved settings ie turning off creep mode between starts. I couldn't find anything else in Topix related to a reporting problem, so I don't know if the UK folks have reported to the dealers yet.

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Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 23, 2019

It’s kind of annoying that creep mode now turns off every time. Couple times I forgot to turn it in as I started my trip and my car rolled backwards on ramps in traffic. I didn’t like that. I hope Jaguar is working on a fix soon.

jbon

· #13 · May 1, 2019

2 different issues

Sbingham60 said:
Interesting - The release S19A_19.07.2-312706 was supposed to fix some of these things specific to the EV (I-Pace)
[...]
Creep Mode not correctly displaying in the Touchscreen.
[...]

A bit late but maybe I can clarify... From my own experience (on S18D & 14.2) I can report that the Creep Mode information is displaying incorrectly but is working (sort of) fine and is remembered when switching the car off.

I have creep mode on but after starting the car it is displayed as "OFF" - but kind of greyed-out. At this point the setting can't be changed and there is an information that the vehicle has to be in P in order to change the mode. Which makes no sense as the car is already in P right after switching it on. The setting stays greyed-out even if putting the car in D and then back in P. Only after driving some and then putting it in P the setting becomes active (the darker overlay removed) and auto-magically switches from "OFF" to "ON".

To me this looks as if a system variable isn't populated during the boot procedure and the display falls back to showing the default "OFF" value and not the actual setting (creep mode on and working fine!) Seems the variable is only updated with the actual setting when entering a "real" P state. Which in turn implies that this also isn't implemented correctly, see switching from P to D and back to P right after vehicle start... So it really depends on WHEN you put the car in P - or maybe I just wasn't patient enough.

I was interpreting the "Creep Mode not correctly displaying" information as that they fixed this in S19A. Haven't updated yet so I'm still guessing/interpreting...

BUT

As CyberSlug and Abs2780 stated JLR seem to have introduced an new bug with the latest (?) S19A version that makes the I-PACE actually forget the current setting when powering off the car.

At least on startup the car now ALWAYS displays the correct creep mode = OFF setting ........ ;-)

I haven't updated to S19A_19.11.4-330884 yet for fear this new bug will be hitting me - although there are a (very) few owners reporting that after updatingto S19A (which exact version?) their creep mode settings are remembered just fine...

Glad if anybody already on S19A_19.11.4-330884 and with Creep Mode still working fine could report back here...
Or report the exact S19A version that broke the setting.

Thanks!

jBon

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sciencegeek

· #14 · May 2, 2019

C'mon boys just embrace high regen and those issues won't affect you >

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· #15 · May 3, 2019

I brought my car in for a software update and creep mode stopped working on vS19A

øappelgren

· #16 · May 17, 2019

That is actually not correct, I drive with full regen, but after updating from 18D to 19A after a black screen incident, not sure of the exact versions, creep mode is disabled just as mentioned in the thread. And it was the rolling backwards thing that told me something was not as I was supposed to be.

And when already writing, I also experience the same noises and “quirky” behavior as mentioned, especially when starting to revers with the wheels turned. It’s like an instant lock, just a if I open the door in my MB GLA before the car has come to a complete stop. That feature is known broken ribs ?

Abs2780

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 6, 2019

The service manager at Jaguar asked me to bring the I Pace back in so they can fix the creep mode issue and the noises that car was making at the front suspension or the break.
- after a full inspection they found a ground wire was loose which was tightened and a thing that is keeping the grip mode on .
- then the dealer said they found a update which is comparable to my car but it cannot be updated and uploaded to my card yet .
- The dealer First told me that they will change my brakes and put new brakes on, today they told me that the noise is normal that’s coming out of the brakes and the noise is from the brakes it’s not the suspension . they have inspected the suspension and the brakes and they think nothing is wrong so I got my car back today after three days but nothing was done.

Now Have to wait for the new update to be ready to be installed .

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Meldev##44

· #18 · Jun 6, 2019

sciencegeek said:
C'mon boys just embrace high regen and those issues won't affect you >

It's not the high regen , it's the car moving when you take your foot off the brake, and
not knowing whether the creep mode is working and keeping the car from rolling unexpectedly.

Or the opposite, that the parking brake has kicked in, and now you have to give it some juice to
get things moving again.

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