This is a car forum. We're supposed to discuss the C8!
I think few of us care, though. ICE.
I think few of us care, though. ICE.
The steel frame front V8, rear T-56/Getrag trasaxle Z06 with a full sized 12v battery weighed 3080 lb at the track scales (1/4 tank, mats and loose items removed, no water in wipers). The aluminum frame, more composite intensive V8, with tiny battery, has been gaining weight.~3360 lbs. That's not much for a car with a big V8. With the intake in the valley, we're likely to see a supercharger, not turbos, which is a shame. And it will still be slower 50-70 than the ipace.
Which gen of Z06? Crash regulations keep getting tighter, so it's hard not to make weight go up. Without crash regulations, these cars could be much, much lighter. Also people expect better build quality nowadays, except for Tesla buyers.The steel frame front V8, rear T-56/Getrag trasaxle Z06 with a full sized 12v battery weighed 3080 lb at the track scales (1/4 tank, mats and loose items removed, no water in wipers). The aluminum frame, more composite intensive V8, with tiny battery, has been gaining weight.
They use superchargers to reduce lag. GM has been selling turbo cars since 1962 and their newest design, the Blackwing DOHC V8 is twin-turbo as is their ATS-V, CTS-Vsport, & CT6. Even their base i-4 275hp engine for the Camaro is turbo. But with the LT2's 490 hp at year one with 6.2 liters, you might actually see the next power bump by using the 7.0 rotating assy, which could reach as high as 580 hp with no additional weight or packaging except bigger coolers. One of the wonderful things about the LSx engine is it's abundance of instant torque and it's light weight. No other gas engine has the instant low rpm grunt of the LS engines. Putting turbos on or supercharging will increase the weight, size, and lag.
BTW - Many thought the Blackwing DOHC turbo V8 was destined for the C8, but weight, cost, size, and responsiveness probably keep it out of the running for now. Another thought was a variant of the 3.0 liter turbo V6. They made the right choice by sticking with a naturally aspired high torque design for this kind of application.
The EV drive in the I-Pace is superior in power delivery, but not in shear hp quantity. From our experience with the supercharged 556? hp CTS-V and 638 hp ZR1, the surplus ICE power is only useful on a track and tends to draw too much attention for public use. The I-Pace is far more responsive on public roads than any gas engine I've experienced and has no drama associated with it. And the format of a 2 seat sportscar or even a 2+2 coupe is pretty irritating for daily use. You have crap visibility, low passenger/cargo ability, might as well ride a motorcycle.
However, if you look at the frame design of the C8, you will notice it's triangulated up front and has a mount for a differential or EV drive. I would not be surprised to see an AWD KERS PHEV variant.
Usefulness starts at the 15 passenger high roof LWB variants of the Ford Transit-350 with 10,360lb GVWR or the MB/Dodge versions. This will haul refrigerators standing straight up, 4 motorcycles, a kayak inside, or an entire sports team, or combinations thereof.I've never understood why some people buy useless cars, however cool they may be ... (no matter whether it's a Vette or a Porsche)
We still have a 2002 Z06 bought new that we abuse now and then. My wife drove it to a 11.95 quarter-mile ET at California Speedway besting Motor Trend's ET of 12.85 in their review.Which gen of Z06? Crash regulations keep getting tighter, so it's hard not to make weight go up. Without crash regulations, these cars could be much, much lighter. Also people expect better build quality nowadays, except for Tesla buyers.
I didn't notice the triangulation up there, but I'd expect them to go AWD for some future version. Stupid not to. Even without AWD, it makes for better stiffness and handling.
I heard Mary Barra say "stay tuned" when asked about an electric pickup truck."Sources from within GM have confirmed to Autocar that both the LT2 engine and the new chassis have been designed with electrification in mind. Company insiders suggested that future versions of the C8 will include mild- and plug-in hybrid versions, with GM even considering a full electric version.
When asked if an electrified Corvette could feature a mild-hybrid system or a proper electric motor on the front axle to provide all-wheel drive, an unnamed project member simply said “you would not look stupid if you said that.”
GM President Mark Reuss confirmed that the platform of the new ‘Vette has been indeed designed to host a number of different solutions.
“The company is committed to a strategy of 0-0-0: zero emissions, zero crashes and zero congestion. All of the technology rolling into this vehicle is meant to support that. This platform can carry a lot of different things into the future for General Motors.”
His answer on whether The General is actually working on a full-electric version of the C8 Corvette was more non-committal: “We’ll see. Stay tuned.”".
GM manages to deliver many great products late, over budget, after the market doesn't want them, and with terrible marketing. No need to be skeptical.Hybrid And Plug-In Hybrid To Follow C8 Corvette Stingray
I heard Mary Barra say "stay tuned" when asked about an electric pickup truck.
I'm a little skeptical when they say things like "stay tuned".