[McRat]

In a previous life, I was a CAD/CAM software developer and still use CAD/CAM/DNC software.
What we learned back in the late 1970's was that software was buggy, and when Windoze came out, it became REALLY buggy.
So we had work-arounds, aka bug-fixes. These are second paths you can take to bypass the event that hits the buggy code.

Example:

• If you push the start button with your foot on the brake, do not push REV or D yet. Push the NAV button. It will often say 'Not available' yet. Wait until it's available if you are not in a hurry, this seems to help. There is a WAITING icon while it tries to hook. I believe the stack has not fully booted yet.
• If you have a NAV window on your dashboard display that just shows a car, try giving the NAV directions and start driving, usually at the first turn requiring instruction, the dash map with appear.
• Lack of full regen for the first 10-20 miles. You can watch the green 'Regen Limit' bar on your radial energy graph. Simply do not charge to past 95% by whatever means possible. This might involve an advanced L2 EVSE with charging limit functions.
• "Put Hands On Wheel" when you have your hands on the wheel. When I put my thumb on the top of the thumb pad (at 10/2), and keep my fingers on the far side of the wheel at 9/3, I can basically rest my hand on the wheel with no torque input indefinitely. The No Hands delay is 20 seconds best I can tell at all speeds. Seems to be scary at 88mph, I'd keep it up 80 only.

 

[epirali]

One note: limited reign is not a big it truly is a feature of a full battery. Rest are software bugs or system glitches.

Btw this list is a bit too extensive even for a brand new car, JLR may need a better software team lead...worst bug I’ve seen in any other car so far was that the Bolt infotainmentwould fail to boot once in maybe hundreds of starts (blank screen) and that got fixed in a couple of months. But even that had a reboot by holding two buttons for 20 seconds and it worked.

 

[Dantrium]

Lack of full regen for the first 10-20 miles. You can watch the green 'Regen Limit' bar on your radial energy graph. Simply do not charge to past 95% by whatever means possible. This might involve an advanced L2 EVSE with charging limit functions.

I’m an EV novice, so I would like to understand what the purpose of not charging to 100% in order to have ‘full regen’? After 10 miles or so you would end up in the same place...

 

[sciencegeek]

I’m an EV novice, so I would like to understand what the purpose of not charging to 100% in order to have ‘full regen’? After 10 miles or so you would end up in the same place...

McRat lives on top of a mountain

 

[epirali]

I’m an EV novice, so I would like to understand what the purpose of not charging to 100% in order to have ‘full regen’? After 10 miles or so you would end up in the same place...

Also besides what SG pointed out you get used to just lifting your foot off the pedal to slow down/stop and sometimes I just wait for the car to stop and have to end up hitting the break, its no big deal but a little disconcerting...

Well not NEARLY as much as when I drive one of my ICE cars once in a while and am shocked when I turn the key, then again the first time I let go off gas and still cruise towards the parked car in panic....

:surprise:

 

[McRat]

I’m an EV novice, so I would like to understand what the purpose of not charging to 100% in order to have ‘full regen’? After 10 miles or so you would end up in the same place...

It will save a small amount of kWhs, and save some brake wear if you leave at <95% of full charge. Not a biggie.
The iRemote app is SUPPOSED to do this, but the one I downloaded does not. Here's from the Jaguar USA website, read the options, one is Max Level of Charge:

 

[McRat]

Played with the 'Blank Nav Screen' for the dashboard display. Seems sometimes it takes awhile for the NAV to lock on. So when I started today, I started it, left it in Park, pushed the center display NAV bar, and it took a minute to come on. When it came on, the dashboard NAV displayed within a couple seconds. The other way, was to cancel the destination, then re-select it.

 

[WattAJag]

McRat lives on top of a mountain

I do live on top of a mountain. I really WANT to limit the charge to 95%. But, that's currently a manual process. However, since the app does tell us when the charging should be finished, I can set an Alexa alarm to get me (or somebody in the house) to stop it.

 

[Trielectric]

Intelligent Emergency Braking System not Available

"Intelligent Emergency Braking System not Available" Last night I was coming home and turned off my headlight in preparation to back into my drive way. I was still moving forward when I turned the lights off. I then guessed wrong as to which button was reverse and hit neutral. My dash lit up with a big alarm about my emergency brakes. I place the car in reverse and it would not move. I place the car in drive and it very slowy started to move with the accelerator pedal to floor. I would say I had about 2 hp pushing the car. I drove the car at about 5 mph, at full throttle, around the block and the turned into my driveway. I again tried to reverse the car anit would not budge,. I turned the car off, waited a minute, then restarted it. After a period of a few seconds the dash came on with a "Intelligent Emergency Braking System not Available" warning. But the car appeared to work ok ,so I turned it around and put the charger on it. Later that evening I started it up and the warning was still there. Next morning after a full charge the warning is gone!! My guess is that by turning off the lights, then selecting neutral, killed the daytime running lights and the car could not see where it was going, so it stopped me from going fast. Morale: don't turn all the lights off, on the car, while still rolling!

 

[Sbingham60]

"Intelligent Emergency Braking System not Available" Last night I was coming home and turned off my headlight in preparation to back into my drive way. I was still moving forward when I turned the lights off. I then guessed wrong as to which button was reverse and hit neutral. My dash lit up with a big alarm about my emergency brakes. I place the car in reverse and it would not move. I place the car in drive and it very slowy started to move with the accelerator pedal to floor. I would say I had about 2 hp pushing the car. I drove the car at about 5 mph, at full throttle, around the block and the turned into my driveway. I again tried to reverse the car anit would not budge,. I turned the car off, waited a minute, then restarted it. After a period of a few seconds the dash came on with a "Intelligent Emergency Braking System not Available" warning. But the car appeared to work ok ,so I turned it around and put the charger on it. Later that evening I started it up and the warning was still there. Next morning after a full charge the warning is gone!! My guess is that by turning off the lights, then selecting neutral, killed the daytime running lights and the car could not see where it was going, so it stopped me from going fast. Morale: don't turn all the lights off, on the car, while still rolling!

Definitely a bug that you might want to discuss with the dealer. Not sure if the car will store the fault codes so that the dealer can relay to JLR.

 

[Ayepace]

Intelligent emergency braking not available may be a bad switch module on the steering wheel.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10168876-0001.pdf

 

[CurtSprings2]

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I do live on top of a mountain. I really WANT to limit the charge to 95%. But, that's currently a manual process. However, since the app does tell us when the charging should be finished, I can set an Alexa alarm to get me (or somebody in the house) to stop it.

A level 2 charger add a about 8% SoC per hour. I use timed charging and set it for how much energy I need to get to 90%. For example if I need 40% to get to 90% I charge for 5 hours. If you have WattCat you can also set a max charge %. Even though I'm still on 14.2 it works great.

 

[epirali]

Well add back in the disappearing profiles. After 19B update my profiles were stable for a while. Now I have had them disappear AGAIN twice in three weeks. I mean some of this stuff is simply maddening, I don’t care if its embedded Windows, don’t fing delete settings. This is basic stuff.

Oh and also the entire SOTA has a bug. Mine downloaded 19C and when it went to install nothing happened. This has been weeks, it just sits there with the “download” icon in the center display and if you check for updates it says up to date. So after 2 weeks idle suddenly it popped up again with “update available” for 19C, but when I said install same thing. I am guessing it is choking on some part of the download, but no one designed a fail safe to either report it, or delete and restart the update.

Love the car, but the nativity of the infotainment stuff is starting to really bug me. Specially after experiencing the software refinement of the Taycan right out of the gate.

 

[CyberSlug]

If the download pops up again, you have the time, and didn't already try this with the second attempt, try not letting the car go to sleep for a long enough period of time so it can download completely and install. It won't take effect until the car goes to sleep after that, but maybe it is a problem with an interrupted download or install process.

 

[epirali]

Cyber: problem is short of driving there doesn’t seem to be any way to keep the car “awake.” I have put it in accessory mode and it shuts off, I have put it into drive mode parked (and never started and stopped to prevent auto turn off with driver door) and it still turns off. And unless I am at the start of a long drive I can’t just wait for it to “finish” specially because there is NO indication of progress or ready.

Again all amateur hour software design.

 

[LauderdaleFE]

Cyber: problem is short of driving there doesn’t seem to be any way to keep the car “awake.” I have put it in accessory mode and it shuts off, I have put it into drive mode parked (and never started and stopped to prevent auto turn off with driver door) and it still turns off. And unless I am at the start of a long drive I can’t just wait for it to “finish” specially because there is NO indication of progress or ready.

Again all amateur hour software design.

The first time I used SOTA I just stayed in the car with the car running, near my home wifi signal, with the music on. I watched the time from start to finish. It took maybe 9 minutes before the download finished and I got the changed 'installing' screen, and maybe 15 minutes in total from start to finish.

Then I learned 'over the air' was not dependent on wifi, so I started the most recent update while going to the grocery store. It was a short trip, but once I got there the parking lot was packed, and I went in circles looking for a spot. Soon after getting there it said it was installing, and by the time I parked (maybe 10 minutes or so) it had completed. Again, around a 20 minute total time, I estimate.

It didn't take noticeably longer with what I assume is a 3G connection relative to a 100 mps wifi connection, and both were fairly short times. And the install time was less than the download, I think, or surely not much more.

 

[Ayepace]

Well add back in the disappearing profiles. After 19B update my profiles were stable for a while. Now I have had them disappear AGAIN twice in three weeks. I mean some of this stuff is simply maddening, I don’t care if its embedded Windows, don’t fing delete settings. This is basic stuff.

Oh and also the entire SOTA has a bug. Mine downloaded 19C and when it went to install nothing happened. This has been weeks, it just sits there with the “download” icon in the center display and if you check for updates it says up to date. So after 2 weeks idle suddenly it popped up again with “update available” for 19C, but when I said install same thing. I am guessing it is choking on some part of the download, but no one designed a fail safe to either report it, or delete and restart the update.

Love the car, but the nativity of the infotainment stuff is starting to really bug me. Specially after experiencing the software refinement of the Taycan right out of the gate.

per Jaguar FAQ
The download has failed. What do I do?
You can use your vehicle as normal. A failed download will not affect your vehicle’s functionality in any way. Please contact the Jaguar Customer Relationship Center (1.800.4.JAGUAR) or your Jaguar Retailer and they will investigate further.

(That was just for the record. I know I'm typing and pasting the obvious and already known info for you.)

 

[epirali]

per Jaguar FAQ
The download has failed. What do I do?
You can use your vehicle as normal. A failed download will not affect your vehicle’s functionality in any way. Please contact the Jaguar Customer Relationship Center (1.800.4.JAGUAR) or your Jaguar Retailer and they will investigate further.

(That was just for the record. I know I'm typing and pasting the obvious and already known info for you.)

Thanks, I am just going to wait until the next release as 19c is so minor it’s almost not worth the effort right now.

 

[Sbingham60]

Thanks, I am just going to wait until the next release as 19c is so minor it’s almost not worth the effort right now.

Considering the frequency of updated to the IMC, about 3 per year, I think you should be okay waiting for 20A. 19C was released December 5, 2019. I would guess we'll see a 20A by the end of March. 19A was released last year at the end of February.

For me, 19C fixed a phone issue of trying to pick up a call after toggling back and forth between CarPlay and FM Radio. Sometime the call would pick up but the voice wouldn't come through. Now all is goodness.

 

[ipace2020]

Well add back in the disappearing profiles. After 19B update my profiles were stable for a while. Now I have had them disappear AGAIN twice in three weeks. I mean some of this stuff is simply maddening, I don’t care if its embedded Windows, don’t fing delete settings. This is basic stuff.

Oh and also the entire SOTA has a bug. Mine downloaded 19C and when it went to install nothing happened. This has been weeks, it just sits there with the “download” icon in the center display and if you check for updates it says up to date. So after 2 weeks idle suddenly it popped up again with “update available” for 19C, but when I said install same thing. I am guessing it is choking on some part of the download, but no one designed a fail safe to either report it, or delete and restart the update.

Love the car, but the nativity of the infotainment stuff is starting to really bug me. Specially after experiencing the software refinement of the Taycan right out of the gate.

+1 for the disappearing profiles. I am trying to love this car, and as a car, I do. The tech is just awful, my work car is a Ford and the infotainment is WAYYYYY better. sad.

We'd had both our profiles disappear three times in five weeks. Best to just wait for an update? Or is this something deeper?