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Bjorn Nyland's Audi e-tron review

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Still think that car is one big snooze-fest but very jealous of the super responsive infotainment system on the e-tron. Come on Jaguar, do something about it!

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Range of 205 miles at 56 mph with a consumption of 40.7 kWh/mi (temp of -5° C). So same ball park as I-Pace.

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We all know Porsche/Audi can make decent products. Ultimately, I think EV fans should cheer increased availability / choice of quality EVs; and then choices can be made on particular features / pricing. For me, I don't want another truck (have one). So, the somewhat lower profile of the I-Pace suits me better. . . and yes, JLR better iron-out the software . . .
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I am a HUGE Audi fan here, will definitely grab the Audi GT eTron when its available. I was waiting for this, and the more I found out the more boring it seemed. And then the I Pace popped up and as a non Jaguar leaning person I was immediately hooked and ordered one. That is not a good sign for Audi. I am sure they will have a lot of family buyers, and Audi is second to none in interior detail and control systems.

But still at the end of the day I decided I am not yet close enough to death to get the Audi SUV.
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Just watched this now too and have been waiting for this from Bjørn Nyland. He really is one of the better and honest EV reviewers out there.

The infotainment although more responsive then the IPaces did look a bit similar as well and im guessing its running some sort of Windows in the background. Did not like the locked charging cable but one super smart thing was that it offers Type2 charging on both sides of the car which really makes home charger placement easier.

This car does look good, but its also pricer then the IPace and is bigger/bulkier as well making it not so attractive for my wife to drive. Plus still not out on the road yet here in Norway, Jaguar definitely worked hard to get their IPace launched and on the streets before this one and some of the other big ones are coming out later this year.
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OMG, this is so funny. He can't unplug the charging cable. Thank goodness with the I-Pace, you just have to cycle lock-unlock cycle to release the charging port lock. And that smudgy screens! LOL.
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I too am a big Audi fan but the looks of this one are just horrible. What's with the bulky snout? There is no reason whatsoever to design it that way!
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The only real advantage I see here is the infotainment setup - and it's a big advantage. Echoing others in saying: Jaguar, get our software sorted out!!!
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sciencegeek said:
I too am a big Audi fan but the looks of this one are just horrible. What's with the bulky snout? There is no reason whatsoever to design it that way!
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I agree. Audi missed a huge opportunity on the design. They could have absolutely ruled the passenger / cargo specs if they would have used those dimensions for the interior.
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bruintoo said:
OMG, this is so funny. He can't unplug the charging cable. Thank goodness with the I-Pace, you just have to cycle lock-unlock cycle to release the charging port lock. And that smudgy screens! LOL.
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We also have an emergency charger release under the hood at the top right its a red string. I used it on day1 when i had to call the dealer as I didnt know about the hit unlock 2x trick on the key :)
But unlike on this Audi, the I-Pace emergency release was easy to pull and worked right away :)
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Agreed, the more EV options the better for everyone. I, like the majority of people on this forum, bought an I-Pace with my eyes wide open. I read every review about the I-Pace out there and knew about the laggy infotainment and the less than stellar consumption but decided that the positives like the gorgeous/totally unique looks, fit and finish, driving dynamics etc. far outweighed the negatives. I placed an order without actually having seen or driven one because I decided no other currently-available or available-in-the-near-future EV fulfilled my needs like the I-Pace. My daily commute is less than 80 miles and the furthest that I will ever drive one-way is 120 miles, so range is not an issue for me. I always charge overnight at home so the current lack of fast charging infrastructure and the slower AC charging speed doesn't bother me. Sure, I get nervous every time the screens take a bit too long to light up or get a bit annoyed at the lack of some advertised features, but the smile that it brings to my face every time I walk up to my blue beauty, even after three weeks of ownership, more than makes up for it.
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Everyone that asks me at work if I like the IPace I say yes im very impressed, but the infotainment software needs work. But on the other hand, the current infotainment actually does everything I need it to and I can live with the little bit of lag that it has so in my opinion its fine and would not stop me from buying one. However this Audi stuff really looks similar with different designs and of course much faster response.
I do believe that our infotainment will also get a makeover sometime, my local dealer was hinting at late January for something new to possibly be released.....that would be right about now :)

BUT...the I-Pace clearly wins the design and overall engineering hands down.
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And another thing I definitely dont miss is all of that "Schmutz" on the back window as Bjørn calls it. The I-Pace does not have that problem even without a rear window wiper. I drive in the same conditions that he does and am Schmutzfree :)
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The only things I really miss from the Audi are:
  1. Fast charging rate (maintaining 150kw until 80% is awesome, and I doubt we'll ever see 100kw to 80% on our i-Paces)
  2. Motorized charge ports on both sides
  3. Night vision (I had it on my 2012 A6, and it is really useful in snow storms when you are crawling along and can't make out the road)
  4. Integrated Toll Module (wouldn't have to stick something on the windshield)

I really do love the i-Pace, I just wish Jaguar would have had these things.
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sciencegeek said:
I too am a big Audi fan but the looks of this one are just horrible. What's with the bulky snout? There is no reason whatsoever to design it that way!
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Hood must be filled with a supercomputer to run the infotainment :wink2:
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Hood must be filled with a supercomputer to run the infotainment :wink2:
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You get a good look at whats under the hood at the very end of this banana box test :)

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This one really shows how bad our voice control is -

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In my opinion Tesla really is the leader in infotainment systems / software development for cars. They obviously struggle in many other areas within the auto industry but their software development is good stuff. Take away the slowness / laggyness of the IPace infotainment, its simply another car infotainment system and doesnt really stand out at all.
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McRat
A lot of the problems we've seen in cars since 2016 have been CarPlay, Android Auto, and HotSpot WiFi.
When the Model S came out, there were quite a bit of infotainment issues, laggy interface, and locking up the display. Without CP and AA.
But they were not alone.

The #1 buyer service complaint today is Infotainment. It used to be TPMS (tire pressure system).
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VW/Porsche/Audi will make great EV's and I may look at some of the upcoming Porsches and Audi EV's a few years from now to replace my Jaguar I-Pace. BUT, what I really don't like about the new E-Tron SUV are the fact that it's basically a slightly larger, heavier Q5 with plain jane exterior and interior and it's somewhat slow...stupid that they only allow for short "bursts" (like 8-10 sec bursts) for the full 400HP/>500lb-ft TQ; otherwise, it's a slow, clunky SUV. It should have the ability like our I-Paces to just drive all the time in a Dynamic mode with FULL POWER, any time, all the time, lol.

I would be more interested in the new Audi E-Tron GT based on the Porsche Taycan, but not sure I want to go back to a sedan. One great advantage of the Audi EV over the Jaguar I-Pace is like others already said...a much faster and probably much less buggy Infotainment system! ;) I do not like that the I-Pace Voice Commands, especially for Navigation, only work like 50% of the time...it just plain sucks! The technology for the Voice Recognition in the Jaguar I-Pace is like from 2004. :(
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