[sgtpeper]

I saw this posted on the facebook group - https://www.motor1.com/reviews/299633/2019-jaguar-i-pace-tesla-model-x-comparison/

I'm not totally sure I agree with them... While the back seat on the MX did have a bit more leg room, I personally felt claustrophobic with the headroom from the falcon door - and I'm only 5'4.

I know the build quality is higher on the Jag.

BUT the big thing it keeps coming back to is the laggy infotainment system.... I'm starting to worry that with windows under the hood, the Jag might just kill itself in the market...

 

[jsimon7777]

While I know some people are having actual glitches with the infotainment, I'm certainly not having the issues. Sure, the system in my Ram is better, but it's rates as the best in the business. I'd ditch all this infotainment **** in a second for all physical buttons plus, maybe, a play list screen for my music.

If I were to put an order of importance for features...
Handling - Jag NOT EVEN CLOSE. The X is a boat. The Jag is lithe. Not quite up there with a Model 3 Performance, but certainly better than the Model S.
Comfort - Jag - seat design + driving position + way quiet + a regular windshield/less sun in my eyes + leather/not vinyl + heating/cooling seats
Acceleration - Jag - but it's not a big difference. Both have more than enough acceleration. I'll floor it for fun or passing, but when merging, it's already overkill. More power just = more trouble, and there's already plenty of trouble here.
Efficiency - Tesla - clear win here. However, when I need to drive over 200 miles in a day more than twice a year, I'll kill myself. That said, at 76MPGe, the Jag is wonderfully efficient compared to ICE. We also have lots of solar panels, so no guilt here.
Practicality - Tie (X is bigger, can seat 7, and can tow, but the FW doors are moronic. I'd have bought a P100D X three years ago if it weren't for the FWD. X is uncomfortably big for twisty roads.)
Style - Jag - The Jag is nice but the X is a jelly bean on wheels. The FW doors have transitions from cool to douchey. The Tesla interior in white looks super cool but doesn't wear well at all. Jag interior is gorgeous.
Infotainment - Tesla - Their interface is better. The big screen is an eyesore, though. I expect the Jag to improve with OTA updates.

Going to a 100D or P100D only pushes one category into Tesla's court, acceleration. The rest stay in jag's court.

I have driven every Tesla but the roadster. I have never managed to make myself buy one. I do own Powerwalls, so I'm no hater.

I'm going to cross post this on TMC.

 

[sgtpeper]

What's TMC?

 

[jsimon7777]

Tesla motors club.

 

[McRat]

What's TMC?

It seems to be primarily a political infomercial that was mistakenly adulterated with some automotive content.
There is some interesting content from actual Tesla owners about their cars though. But you must read past a lot of politics and utterings by Muskovites to glean any factual content. Oddly, folk who post tech data don't last long there, so there is not much of it.

 

[dtgsrq]

I have driven every Tesla but the roadster. I have never managed to make myself buy one.

Ditto. I first experienced the "EV rush" when I test drove a Model S in 2012. I give Tesla/Musk all the credit in the world for advancing (accelerating? - pun intended) the EV market. When they announced the MX, I was salivating. Then came the FW doors... ugh, my mouth dried up a bit. Then the pricing, and production issues (serious ones, not "infotainment" glitches)... then the delays, and more delays (purportedly due to FWD problems). I tired of waiting, got skiddish on brand quality and just bought (another, my 5th) Mercedes SUV in 2014. Contrast with the I-Pace: I placed order and deposit within weeks of seeing it online (early August, before test driving), even abandoning the last year of Mercedes CPO warranty on my current GL. The I-Pace is compelling in all respects: product, performance, and price - although that $69,500 is a bit of a tease... my First Edition HSE out the door (options, tax, title, tire/appearance protection/warranties, etc.) was just shy of $100k.

 

[Ormond]

I like my Model X very much. Yes, it’s an egg-shaped vehicle and doesn’t handle as well as the Jaguar, but I’ve grown to enjoy it. My white seats have almost no wear in over two years. I do have some marks on the seats, but they’re easy to wipe off. I get lots of compliments on it even though Tesla’s are more commonplace now. (I’m in Daytona Beach.) The comparison article seems quite fair to me.

I’m still considering the Jaguar because I like changing vehicles and I’ve always wanted a Jaguar. The charging infrastructure worries me a bit.

 

[jsimon7777]

I like my Model X very much. Yes, it’s an egg-shaped vehicle and doesn’t handle as well as the Jaguar, but I’ve grown to enjoy it. My white seats have almost no wear in over two years. I do have some marks on the seats, but they’re easy to wipe off. I get lots of compliments on it even though Tesla’s are more commonplace now. (I’m in Daytona Beach.) The comparison article seems quite fair to me.

I’m still considering the Jaguar because I like changing vehicles and I’ve always wanted a Jaguar. The charging infrastructure worries me a bit.

Around here, the Fremont area, Teslas are common, like Honda Accord common. No compliments going on anymore, not that that really matters. Vinyl does have the advantage of wearing well, though I've heard many complaints about jeans staining the white. In white, the interior can be quite striking.

 

[McRat]

So far, if you are looking for luxury and ease of use, the Jaguar wins hands down.
The fact that it's cheaper, takes less parking space, will fit in most all garages without gullwing door interference, and has Land Rover low-traction technology just puts icing on the cake.
Neither car is a Cargo Master, or a Towing Expert. Unlike real SUVs, neither can carry 4'x8' lumber in the bed. There aren't even towing mirror options for either car, equalizer hitches void your warranty, and the big problem with towing is highway economy. If you lose 50% of your usable range, it doesn't affect a truck with 700 miles of fuel. It does affect a car with 240mi of range. EVs aren't a wise choice for towing today.

 

[WattAJag]

I was at Cars & Coffee, Saturday, and two young (...er than me) guys were talking to each other about my car and the guy goes:

"It's cheaper than the Tesla, it's basically as fast for any practical consideration, it goes as far, it's better looking, and it's just way nicer on the inside. "

I'm like: "You just nailed everything on my list!"