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I've been thinking about a Model X for a while now, but the ipace has me wanting to test drive it.


I know that Tesla will be running out of the 7500 tax credit (goes to 3500 i think). But I assume Jag has plenty of the 7500 left?


I'd like to buy end of year so I can get the credit back asap...
 

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That all has to do the Feds, and any state or utility programs.
The i-Pace is the first plug-in Jaguar in the USA. AFAIK, the world. So they have 200,000 credits.
 

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From what I have read Tesla have been prioritising deliveries to Canada recently, so perhaps that means that the 200,000th shipment in USA will be in July. I think that that means that the taper doesn't start until the end of the quarter FOLLOWING that quarter? If that's right then that would mean a December 2018 vehicle was entitled, if that's wrong then it would need to be September 2018 latest
 

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I'm not sure I can justify the $20k or so a X75D is over an iPace... and when you throw in the 7500 it's even more of a gap.


I sold my 2013 Model S a few weeks ago, thinking I'd get a Model X at some point, but the ipace makes a strong argument...
 

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I'm not sure I can justify the $20k or so a X75D is over an iPace... and when you throw in the 7500 it's even more of a gap.
More like a 10k difference with similar options, though many options aren't available on the Tesla. Do you own a home business? That makes the X pricing a lot better. It can also make the 7500 credit useless.
 

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An X75D the way I want is $95,250
The iPace the way I want is $80,270k

$14,980 difference. + 6% registration, so there is another $890. (PA)
$16,870 difference out the door. You'll forgive me rounding ;)


Then you have to calculate tax credits.

Jag = $7500
Tesla = possible $7500 or $3500....


I cannot leverage the X hummer loophole.

Which makes the iPace a very interesting car to me...
 

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for the love of electricity... ugh.


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So for CA residents, these are incentives for Jaguar i-Pace:

Federal: $7,500 (if buying federal tax deduction, if leasing reducing the capital cost)
State: $2,500 (depends on gross income eligibility: $150,000 for single filers, $204,000 for head-of-household filers, $300,000 for joint filers)
SCE Customers: $450
Other utility companies: ???

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Do people making under 300k buy 90k automobiles???
Plenty of people "stretched" to buy a Tesla, that forum is littered with "This is 3x what I normally pay for a car" so, yeah, I reckon some will. You can buy a used Range Rover and chuck some vanity plates on it so that noone knows how old it is [in UK the plates the car comes with indicate "year", but people buy plates with low numbers, or that "sort of spell something", and you can pay a modest "transfer fee" to put the plate on another car - not quite the same as free-text plates in USA though). But for someone wanting to look flash they way want the latest model, and no second hand i-Pace available of course .. so I reckon "yeah"

Big saving on Electricity vs Fossil Fuel (not so much in USA). At 27K miles p.a. Electricity is between $4000-$5000 cheaper a year for me. Also I can charge at work (and not be taxed on that "benefit"). Maybe that $400 per month gets me the finance difference for a $90K car?
 

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Do people making under 300k buy 90k automobiles???
It depends on where you are in life. If your house is paid for, the kids college is funded as is your retirement, then $100k car for $100k household income with an 7.5 year use period and 25% resale, isn't that brutal. That's about $1000 a month to have a nice car.

If you paying a large mortgage, have other large bills, are trying to fund college/kids, and putting some away for retirement? Even at $300k family income, you might not be planning very well. Jobs are not guaranteed.
 

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What about this 20% tariff that your president want to stick on to European cars? The i-Pace being a British car built in Austria, it will hit it head on. Maybe more cars coming to Canada after all! :smile2:
 

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What about this 20% tariff that your president want to stick on to European cars? The i-Pace being a British car built in Austria, it will hit it head on. Maybe more cars coming to Canada after all! :smile2:
Well, that Chevrolet Bolt is a nice little electric car. And I could get two of them for the price of an I-Pace. Two and a half, with a big tariff...
 

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What about this 20% tariff that your president want to stick on to European cars? The i-Pace being a British car built in Austria, it will hit it head on. Maybe more cars coming to Canada after all! :smile2:
Europe typically has a 10% tariff and a 20% VAT or higher.

US has a 2.5% tariff and no VAT.

So even with a 20% tariff, there will still be a bigger price difference.

Price a Corvette in France vs. USA for a real eye opener. $96,000 in France, and $55,500 in the USA for the same version. That's not 30%.
 
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