[wbjag]

Kind of ridiculous to provide a set 201 miles on the GOM after a full charge regardless of drive and environmental history don't you think? :|

JLR needs to provide accurate mileage and SOC yes? Any thoughts?

Hope they're listening and will take the time to do something about it... :|

 

[Dantrium]

Kind of ridiculous to provide a set 201 miles on the GOM after a full charge regardless of drive and environmental history don't you think?

JLR needs to provide accurate mileage and SOC yes? Any thoughts?
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Unless you have a bad battery, the SOC displayed is accurate.

 

[epirali]

Dantrium is correct, the SOC has always been accurate. The only issue is IF the battery has a failure then the SOC may be right, but the total capacity may be lower.

There is a reason we say GOM (guess o meter). It is a guess based on many factors, including outside conditions, history of driving conditions and it can never be perfect. In fact if I have been driving like Grandma and all of a sudden I start driving aggressively and climb hills it can be 30-40% off. Not that it should be stuck at 201, that seems to be some stuck algorithm factor and may age out as you drive more and more (the GOM probably uses short term and long term data to provide a guess).

So I wouldn’t worry about the range displayed. If you haven’t try the GOM reset procedure, or give it time. I always suggest reset your trip mileage when you have full charge, then just look at what you have driven and SOC to get a better idea of how much range you have left.

 

[Ayepace]

PCM (powertrain control module) software may not be up-to-date. Check your vehicle VIN with this bulletin.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10164955-9999.pdf

 

[bruintoo]

Kind of ridiculous to provide a set 201 miles on the GOM after a full charge regardless of drive and environmental history don't you think? :|

JLR needs to provide accurate mileage and SOC yes? Any thoughts?

Hope they're listening and will take the time to do something about it... :|

Try resetting your GOM. Search for the topic somewhere here in the forums.

 

[WattAJag]

I have a phone based spreadsheet that does WAY better than the GOM with a simple strategy. In English, the idea is - if you continue to drive as you have since the last charge, this is the range you should expect based only on the %SOC of your battery.

I store the % of charge since the last time I unplugged the car, and reset the Trip mileage (or store the mileage).

Then, every 5-10 minutes on a trip, I plug in the current SOC and Trip miles driven.

Remaining Range = Miles Driven * Current SOC/ (Starting SOC - Current Soc)

That tells you "If you keep driving as you have been (in the conditions you're currently in) - you can expect this much range.

Total Range (Since last charge) = Miles Driven + Remaining Range

The GOM should calculate that way. I have asked WattCat's author to consider incorporating this simple Range screen into his app - since, he can automatically poll the car for the mileage and % SOC.

This method has worked on all my out of town trips, and been VERY accurate after driving only 10-15 minutes.

 

[McRat]

I just had the latest flash done according to the dealer.
For 2 days it read correctly, now it's back to 201 miles again.
I've had the 201 error most of my 16,000 miles, it doesn't affect me since 'gas gauges' are never exactly accurate.
But it was pretty sweet to hypermile it and have it show over 270 miles based on my gentle driving.
My experience is that when driven aggressively, I do get about 200 miles per charge.

 

[peter]

mine also does the same, allways shows a range of 201 miles when fully charged, whatever the driving conditions and temperature.

also drops to 0 after driving 110 miles at 65 MPH average in eco mode and cruise control on on a highway, a very very long way form the advertised 240

 

[PS702]

mine also does the same, allways shows a range of 201 miles when fully charged, whatever the driving conditions and temperature.

also drops to 0 after driving 110 miles at 65 MPH average in eco mode and cruise control on on a highway, a very very long way form the advertised 240

What is the % of the battery shows when you're at 0 on the GOM?

 

[JHock]

PCM (powertrain control module) software may not be up-to-date. Check your vehicle VIN with this bulletin.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10164955-9999.pdf

So I happen to have a car in this range and Topix also does this this campaign outstanding for my car. What's the impact of not doing it in a timely manner? The bulletin basically says if it's in the field already chill & wait to hear from us - but that seems very counter to the presales perspective of "do everything in your ability to not deliver a car requiring this update".

I'm not experiencing any issues, but I'm just curious why it would seem fairly urgent on non-delivered and not so urgent on vehicles on the road. Thanks!

 

[LauderdaleFE]

I was annoyed when the updates at the dealer got me into this constant GOM 201 range.

Then I gave it some thought, and it is purely emotional and not rational, for me. My habit is to run until I have 100 miles of range showing, and then recharge. That's a week to ten days, so oh, well.

I have tried to do the GOM reset, and while it worked before the dealer updates, it does not seem to work after them. However, it did seem to work with a delay of a few minutes when I was re-visiting some dash display setting options. All of a sudden it displayed 268 miles remaining (and in the 90+% SOC, indicative of about a 280 range, I would guess). Unfortunately it didn't stick around after a restart.

Of the two, I'd prefer the GOM show a lower range than a higher range from what is accurate. But I do get a warm feeling with the higher ranges, I must admit. Pride? I'm not sure, but it isn't particularly rational.

 

[Dantrium]

also drops to 0 after driving 110 miles at 65 MPH average in eco mode and cruise control on on a highway

Unless your temps are in the single digits or colder Fahrenheit, to only get 110 miles at 65mph is not ‘normal’. I would suspect a potential main battery issue. I suggest you run some tests using SOC and record how much power you put back into the battery and the resulting SOC. If you are running the car close to zero and bringing it back to 100%, you should be putting 82+ kw into the battery.

 

[peter]

thanks, i only bought the car new on october 28th, so would be suprised that the batterie has a problem, as that would mean the dealer did not check it before delivery to me as i dont think a battery can fail in 10 days

 

[peter]

battery also shows 0%, and whne i fully charge the electrify america charger said it added 51 KWC

 

[epirali]

battery also shows 0%, and whne i fully charge the electrify america charger said it added 51 KWC

Definitely have a battery issue, you are only slightly above 1/2 capacity. Contact dealer.

 

[sciencegeek]

Definitely have a battery issue, you are only slightly above 1/2 capacity. Contact dealer.

What he said

 

[rwebcon]

Full Carge less the 240

I agree, the I Pace should always charge to at leas 240 as advertised.

 

[Excellentinman]

What is it about 201 and what happened to 234?

I have had the GOM stuck at 201 issue since taking delivery of my IPace in March. My vehicle has been at the dealers for this issue multiple times and it is still not fixed. Last time it was in and they did yet another update I thought that it was fixed as for several weeks it would vary between 201 and 211. However, it is now back to 201 on every full charge once again. My real range is around 206 to 210 now that the Arizona summer heat has abated. Back in the summer heat my real range was around 180. I have never been close to the JLR claim of 234 and I drive exclusively in ECO mode observing speed limits with very little aggressive acceleration. It would seem that the only way to get to 234 would be to live in Nebraska where there are very few hills and drive way below the speed limit in ECO mode.

Despite all this I love the car. It is so much fun to drive but I would love to spend less time charging. BTW it would be nice if JLR could fix the navigation software so it shows all available chargers (like the PlugShare App) and not just the ChargePoint ones which are predominantly Level 2. On a road trip I am only interested in DCFCs and really fast ones like Electrify America - not 20kWh.

 

[sciencegeek]

I agree, the I Pace should always charge to at leas 240 as advertised.

The GoM can be / is often wrong. Check your actual range as a function of %SoC consumed.

 

[Dantrium]

I have never been close to the JLR claim of 234 and I drive exclusively in ECO mode observing speed limits with very little aggressive acceleration. It would seem that the only way to get to 234 would be to live in Nebraska where there are very few hills and drive way below the speed limit in ECO mode.

it would be nice if JLR could fix the navigation software so it shows all available chargers (like the PlugShare App) and not just the ChargePoint ones which are predominantly Level 2. On a road trip I am only interested in DCFCs and really fast ones like Electrify America - not 20kWh.

I doubt I’ll ever understand why electric cars are rated based on an arbitrary distance to empty. ICE vehicles are rated by their fuel use in City and highway driving. No one that I know has ever taken the rated MPG and times it by the size of the fuel tank and then proclaimed that as the be all end all fuel economy rating of their car. So why do we treat EVs that way? 234 miles to empty is a relatively arbitrary number based on a very unique set of circumstances which would be difficult to replicate.

Secondly, while the JLR nav system will likely never be as good/accurate as PlugShare for chargers, it does a pretty decent job of locating them, but you need to go deep into a not so intuitive sub menus of sub menus to set which chargers you want to display. If you are only seeing ChargePoint it is because that is what is set in the menus for you to see.