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I am considering getting an i-pace. Anyone know if there is any discernible difference in range between the 18" vs 20" wheels?



I have read in some reviews that the 20" wheels make for a harder / stiffer ride. I am looking for a softer ride (2 car seats in the back).
 

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Are the 22s an option for you?
 

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I am considering getting an i-pace. Anyone know if there is any discernible difference in range between the 18" vs 20" wheels?

I have read in some reviews that the 20" wheels make for a harder / stiffer ride. I am looking for a softer ride (2 car seats in the back).
Yes there is; about 20 miles less with 20s and another 5 miles less with 22s.
 

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I am considering getting an i-pace. Anyone know if there is any discernible difference in range between the 18" vs 20" wheels?

I have read in some reviews that the 20" wheels make for a harder / stiffer ride. I am looking for a softer ride (2 car seats in the back).
Don't have the I-Pace yet but 10 years of EV experience. The 18" wheels show Michelin LATITUDE TOUR HP 235/65R18 as factory. 20" is 245/50R20, and 22" a sticky Pirelli Pzero 255/40R22. In general, the smaller the contact patch the lower the rolling resistance. And smaller diameter rims tend to deliver a smoother ride as taller sidewall has more flex.

You need to decide what is most important to you. the Michelin latitude is a LRR tire so less friction which also translates to nominally lower traction. I have found LRR tires less desirable in wet conditions, but continue to run them on the Bolt as they work fine in our dry climate.

We ordered the 20" because the I-Pace suspension is nicely tuned and the 20" seemed a good compromise between ride and performance. We also liked the look of the 20" 2068 wheel. But if my use case regularly required the EPA range, I would have ordered the 18". That size also seems to have more LRR tire options. Shifting from Michelin Energy Saver to Michelin Premier on the Fit EV and C-Max Energi cost about 7% in range (but wet traction was better), so tire choice has an effect too.

With so many new DC Fast Charge sites coming on line, I'm less concerned with range than I used to be (a virtual non issue these days).
 

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I am considering getting an i-pace. Anyone know if there is any discernible difference in range between the 18" vs 20" wheels?

I have read in some reviews that the 20" wheels make for a harder / stiffer ride. I am looking for a softer ride (2 car seats in the back).
The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR in I-Pace ride 'softness' is the tire pressure. Use the "light load" setting (for 1-3 passengers with no significant cargo) and set all 4 tire pressures to 37psi. the car comes with MUCH higher pressures (up to 51psi) for shipping reasons and they often forget to 'soften' them.

Makes a HUGE difference!
 

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Only thing I’ll add is 22s may be a little too stiff for daily and the handling improvements unless you plan to drive hard may not be worth it. Also depending on Plymouth consider tire options with the 22 for winter. The I Pace is my winter car so I went with the 20s.
 

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I have the 22s, been driving on them 7 months. Once I learned/set the tire pressure to 37psi, I have been very pleased with the ride. Never driven on the 20s or 18s because the look of the 22s won me over immediately. Also, I don't buy into the notion that I've lost 20-25 miles of range by going with the 22s. At 100% SOC I see anwhere from 205mi of range (if lots of recent highway driving at 75-85mph) up to 236mi (if recently mostly in town driving). And with tire pressures set to 37psi I'm MAXIMIZING the rolling resistance (and minimizing mileage) with the lowest rated pressure.
 

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I have the 22s, been driving on them 7 months. Once I learned/set the tire pressure to 37psi, I have been very pleased with the ride. Never driven on the 20s or 18s because the look of the 22s won me over immediately. Also, I don't buy into the notion that I've lost 20-25 miles of range by going with the 22s. At 100% SOC I see anwhere from 205mi of range (if lots of recent highway driving at 75-85mph) up to 236mi (if recently mostly in town driving). And with tire pressures set to 37psi I'm MAXIMIZING the rolling resistance (and minimizing mileage) with the lowest rated pressure.
I think the big differences are in a regime where there is a fair amount of acceleration and deceleration, such as lots of stops and starts or 'spirited' driving. Given your quoted ranges you're probably a fairly conservative driver, where the inefficiency of larger wheels is not quite as great ... but it still exists.
 

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I'm completely fine with the 22 inches too. It probably depends on the road conditions where you live as much as anything, as well as your prior car history. Having come out of a line of sport cars and sport bikes... the ride on the 22" wheels is fine by me as long as the tire pressures are kept more in the 37 psi comfort range and squeezing every possible kilowatt hour out of the car isn't a big deal to you. If I were concerned about squeezing every single dime out of an EV I wouldn't have picked a $90k car to do it in. I'm in Central Texas so the roads here don't suffer from too much winter damage.

I think the larger 20 or 22" wheels are one of the things that cause the car to appear to have more of a show-car look. Someone even asked if it was a concept car, I think partially due to the 22" carbon-fiber trimmed wheels he kept ogling.

The safest thing to do is to test drive any combinations you are considering, and possibly asking them to allow you to set the PSI down to comfort range for the drive regardless of which wheel/tire you try.

If 22 inchers are just too far a push for you, then I'd have absolutely no doubt that 20 inchers would be just fine.
 

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I have read in some reviews that the 20" wheels make for a harder / stiffer ride. I am looking for a softer ride (2 car seats in the back).
We have 2 car seats and 20" wheels. The car drives great on mixed quality roads. The toddler grandkids are very comfortable and prefer riding in the I-Pace over our Fusion or their parent's cars. Our I-Pace has darkly tinted rear windows and the AC kept them comfortable during the recent heat wave. The I-Pace is a great kid-hauler.
 

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Are the 22s an option for you?

Nope. It increases the price and also I don't think its offered on the S or SE.



Additionally I am looking at getting something thats already on a dealer lot. Its not a custom order. So 22" likely not an option.
 

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We have 2 car seats and 20" wheels. The car drives great on mixed quality roads. The toddler grandkids are very comfortable and prefer riding in the I-Pace over our Fusion or their parent's cars. Our I-Pace has darkly tinted rear windows and the AC kept them comfortable during the recent heat wave. The I-Pace is a great kid-hauler.

Thanks for the insight based on your experience. Glad to know its a good kid hauler with the 20".
 

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Get the 20 inch. The 18 inch has too much rubber for side-wall. I wish I got the 20s.

Since I am looking to get something on the dealerlot, I won't be very choosy. Based on most inputs, 18" or 20" won't be a big difference in ride comfort. I might go for one with 20" for the looks!
 

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Yes there is; about 20 miles less with 20s and another 5 miles less with 22s.

Thanks. Is this projection or from real world driving? 20miles drop definitely seems a bit high. its almost 8-10% drop in range from the EPA estimates. This maybe a concern since I occasionally have to do a 180 mile drive. This is one way but I can charge at either end. But come winter, I am sure I will be cutting close, even in the mild NorCal winter.
 

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Don't have the I-Pace yet but 10 years of EV experience. The 18" wheels show Michelin LATITUDE TOUR HP 235/65R18 as factory. 20" is 245/50R20, and 22" a sticky Pirelli Pzero 255/40R22. In general, the smaller the contact patch the lower the rolling resistance. And smaller diameter rims tend to deliver a smoother ride as taller sidewall has more flex.

You need to decide what is most important to you. the Michelin latitude is a LRR tire so less friction which also translates to nominally lower traction. I have found LRR tires less desirable in wet conditions, but continue to run them on the Bolt as they work fine in our dry climate.

We ordered the 20" because the I-Pace suspension is nicely tuned and the 20" seemed a good compromise between ride and performance. We also liked the look of the 20" 2068 wheel. But if my use case regularly required the EPA range, I would have ordered the 18". That size also seems to have more LRR tire options. Shifting from Michelin Energy Saver to Michelin Premier on the Fit EV and C-Max Energi cost about 7% in range (but wet traction was better), so tire choice has an effect too.

With so many new DC Fast Charge sites coming on line, I'm less concerned with range than I used to be (a virtual non issue these days).



Very nice that you were able to list the exact tire specs on the 3 options. Given that I currently drive a 528i with 225/55R 17, I am sure any option on the i-pace will give me better ride quality. I interpret wider tires to have more grip and more comfort. So its a toss up between 18" and 20". 18" because it probably is going to get more range and a more softer ride (due to more flex) and maybe the 20" for the look.



Wet conditions are not a big concern. No plan to go extreme driving. Its going to be primarily a kid hauler for my wife!
 

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The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR in I-Pace ride 'softness' is the tire pressure. Use the "light load" setting (for 1-3 passengers with no significant cargo) and set all 4 tire pressures to 37psi. the car comes with MUCH higher pressures (up to 51psi) for shipping reasons and they often forget to 'soften' them.

Makes a HUGE difference!



Interesting thought. What is the PSI rating on the tires? I mean whats listed on the tires?



I thought its recommended to keep the tires at the rated PSI for optimal driving. So you are talking of under inflating the tires to improve softness?
 

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Only thing I’ll add is 22s may be a little too stiff for daily and the handling improvements unless you plan to drive hard may not be worth it. Also depending on Plymouth consider tire options with the 22 for winter. The I Pace is my winter car so I went with the 20s.
I have the 22s, been driving on them 7 months. Once I learned/set the tire pressure to 37psi, I have been very pleased with the ride. Never driven on the 20s or 18s because the look of the 22s won me over immediately. Also, I don't buy into the notion that I've lost 20-25 miles of range by going with the 22s. At 100% SOC I see anwhere from 205mi of range (if lots of recent highway driving at 75-85mph) up to 236mi (if recently mostly in town driving). And with tire pressures set to 37psi I'm MAXIMIZING the rolling resistance (and minimizing mileage) with the lowest rated pressure.
I'm completely fine with the 22 inches too. It probably depends on the road conditions where you live as much as anything, as well as your prior car history. Having come out of a line of sport cars and sport bikes... the ride on the 22" wheels is fine by me as long as the tire pressures are kept more in the 37 psi comfort range and squeezing every possible kilowatt hour out of the car isn't a big deal to you. If I were concerned about squeezing every single dime out of an EV I wouldn't have picked a $90k car to do it in. I'm in Central Texas so the roads here don't suffer from too much winter damage.

I think the larger 20 or 22" wheels are one of the things that cause the car to appear to have more of a show-car look. Someone even asked if it was a concept car, I think partially due to the 22" carbon-fiber trimmed wheels he kept ogling.

The safest thing to do is to test drive any combinations you are considering, and possibly asking them to allow you to set the PSI down to comfort range for the drive regardless of which wheel/tire you try.

If 22 inchers are just too far a push for you, then I'd have absolutely no doubt that 20 inchers would be just fine.

The 22" is probably not something I want to get. One it increases the cost and also looking for something that softer. Its the kid hauler. I agree the 20" is a good compromise. Somewhere in the middle!
 

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Interesting thought. What is the PSI rating on the tires? I mean whats listed on the tires?
I thought its recommended to keep the tires at the rated PSI for optimal driving. So you are talking of under inflating the tires to improve softness?
The recommended tire pressure is 37psi. The car is shipped with the tires set to 50 and some dealers forget to reduce the pressure or leave the pressure above the recommendation for better efficiency. Mine were set at 44 and lowering to 37 helped soften the ride.
 

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Interesting thought. What is the PSI rating on the tires? I mean whats listed on the tires?
I thought its recommended to keep the tires at the rated PSI for optimal driving. So you are talking of under inflating the tires to improve softness?
The recommended tire pressure is 37psi. The car is shipped with the tires set to 50 and some dealers forget to reduce the pressure or leave the pressure above the recommendation for better efficiency. Mine were set at 44 and lowering to 37 helped soften the ride.
I’m definitely not the princess from Princess and the Pea. I detect zero difference in tide ‘softness’ with a few PSI difference in the tires...
 
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