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Newport Beach JLR - wrong about deliveries.

On June 1, I received the docs indicating July 13 build, Sept 26 delivery for an FE.
I had also asked the salesman to notify me if they get a showroom sample so I can see how I fit.
Then I read on this site that there were delays.
So on Aug 1, (this is after the 'build' date) I requested updated information and when I can see one.
I was told that everything was on schedule I'd be notified if anything changes, and notified when I can see a physical sample.

Come Aug 16, stopped by the dealership because of the rumor on this board was there would be an i-Pace for static display.
I did not expect to see one, since the salesman told me only 2 weeks early he would let me know if one arrived.
Well, there was an HSE there, and apparently a static display from 2pm-7pm only with a presentation and Q&A. I arrived at 1 pm, could not stay, and it was One Day Only.
I looked the car over, checked the room, the 14-50 charger, but could not evaluate much more.

When I called asking about if not attending the presentation would have any effect on my delivery, they said no. I asked if my Sept delivery was still good.

Nope. It was even built yet. Delivery est late November. Maybe. As I found with Tesla, if they are wrong once, sometimes it becomes a pattern.

I needed the car for tax purposes before the end of the year.

I'll admit I'm praying somebody comes out with something else interesting this winter that is actually available. I don't have a warm fuzzy that Jag can deliver the car before Dec 31. Or I just buy another ICE toy. I've been driving on electricity for over 5 years, so it's not like getting left standing at the altar is going to ruin me.

Bummed to say the least. And embarrassed since I told friends and customers I'm getting Jaguar EV next month. And I was going to give my daughter my current car this weekend (it has AEB, hers does not), but I like the car and don't want to do without Adaptive Cruise Control for 2 to ??? months.

For Newport Jaguar, it is a minor concern. After seeing the F-Type convertible, she is thinking about buying one for herself. Small potatoes, $160,000+ worth of cars, they probably move that much every 15 minutes. But I thought I'd let folk know not to believe what they say without secondary validation.

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But I thought I'd let folk know not to believe what they say without secondary validation.
I think this goes without saying for car dealers in general. My experience has been similar at Newport Beach. The sales person seems nice enough, but schedule info has been vague and they have not gone out of their way to keep me updated.

They really should have let you know about the display this week - I at least got an email inviting me. Was there a presentation? I just showed up and they found a guy to answer a couple questions for me. Didn't see any presentation.

My delivery estimate has been delayed now to after Christmas. I also specifically requested delivery before year end; at this point, I'd give it no more than a 50-50 chance. I was also told they expect to have I-Pace available for test drives in October, though I don't put much stock in that, either. Like you, I'd like a nice new EV, but I don't expect anything comparable to be available for at least a year. I guess I could still go for a Model 3, but Tesla Corp. seems like it may be falling apart now. Or a nice ICE car. Or just keep waiting...
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Thanks for the updates, guys. Very sorry to hear about the delays. And no test drives until October? Difficult to imagine there'll be any U.S. deliveries prior to November, then. I'm also a Tesla hold-out . . . but for 1/3 the monthly cost of the I-Pace I've ordered, I may dip my toe into the EV world with a Bolt lease . . . and simply wait for things to settle down in the meantime.


I'll check my schedule first, and see if it's also getting pushed out.
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The Bolt is not a bad choice. I drove one for a few months. It's a nice little car, I just wish it had a few more luxury features, particularly Adaptive Cruise Control. I will consider getting another Bolt, if nothing better comes along fairly soon.
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Frustrating, but not surprising ... and certainly not embarrassing for you (McRat) in light of Tesla's constant challenges.
The idea that some other EV will magically appear for purchase before the end of the year seems highly unlikely. The Bolt is dorky as heck. And I'm not buying the Tablet on Wheels, Aka the Model Frog
So I'm just going to be patient; fortunately I don't have a tax issue and if my January delivery date slips I don't care too much.

It would be interesting to find out whether your orders are getting pushed back in favor of other orders or whether actual production is delayed across the board.
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Yep. Went ahead and test drove the Bolt today. The seats really kill it: front seats are like kiddie seats (too small) and rear stadium seating places my head in the ceiling. Close but no cigar. No updated response yet RE: my I-Pace dates.
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On June 1, I received the docs indicating July 13 build, Sept 26 delivery for an FE.
I had also asked the salesman to notify me if they get a showroom sample so I can see how I fit.
Then I read on this site that there were delays.
So on Aug 1, (this is after the 'build' date) I requested updated information and when I can see one.
I was told that everything was on schedule I'd be notified if anything changes, and notified when I can see a physical sample.

Come Aug 16, stopped by the dealership because of the rumor on this board was there would be an i-Pace for static display.
I did not expect to see one, since the salesman told me only 2 weeks early he would let me know if one arrived.
Well, there was an HSE there, and apparently a static display from 2pm-7pm only with a presentation and Q&A. I arrived at 1 pm, could not stay, and it was One Day Only.
I looked the car over, checked the room, the 14-50 charger, but could not evaluate much more.

When I called asking about if not attending the presentation would have any effect on my delivery, they said no. I asked if my Sept delivery was still good.

Nope. It was even built yet. Delivery est late November. Maybe. As I found with Tesla, if they are wrong once, sometimes it becomes a pattern.

I needed the car for tax purposes before the end of the year.

I'll admit I'm praying somebody comes out with something else interesting this winter that is actually available. I don't have a warm fuzzy that Jag can deliver the car before Dec 31. Or I just buy another ICE toy. I've been driving on electricity for over 5 years, so it's not like getting left standing at the altar is going to ruin me.

Bummed to say the least. And embarrassed since I told friends and customers I'm getting Jaguar EV next month. And I was going to give my daughter my current car this weekend (it has AEB, hers does not), but I like the car and don't want to do without Adaptive Cruise Control for 2 to ??? months.

For Newport Jaguar, it is a minor concern. After seeing the F-Type convertible, she is thinking about buying one for herself. Small potatoes, $160,000+ worth of cars, they probably move that much every 15 minutes. But I thought I'd let folk know not to believe what they say without secondary validation.
It's on display at Penske JLR in Cerritos from August 17 to August 22. We stopped today. My sales guy even showed me the 50KWh fast charger and 7KWh charger that were installed at the dealership. What he said is that Jaguar is probably tightening the production and delivery of I-Pace; so those with original September delivery dates are delayed to November and those with delivery dates in January 2019 have been expedited to December 2018 (like mine). It's got lots of room inside. Unfortunately, not test drives allowed as of yet.
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Thanks for the pix and info (I-Pace does look better than the Bolt, ha ha).


I'm an Aug. order with a late Dec. delivery date, if it holds -- which appears to align with what you're reporting.
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Yep. Went ahead and test drove the Bolt today. The seats really kill it: front seats are like kiddie seats (too small) and rear stadium seating places my head in the ceiling. Close but no cigar. No updated response yet RE: my I-Pace dates.
Actually, the front seats are the main concern I have about the I-Pace, having sat in one this week. The I-Pace driver's seat felt uncomfortably narrow (the bottom, not the back). It supposedly has 18-way adjustments, so I'm hoping one of the adjustments can improve this. Anyone else tried out the 'sport' seats and had a similar feeling?

I found the Bolt front seats quite comfortable myself, but I know lots of people had the same reaction you did. I'm surprised about the rear headroom though - I'm an inch or two over six feet, and had plenty of headroom in the back of the Bolt. Front and rear headroom also seem fine in the I-Pace, except there's that big black rubber or plastic thing on the middle of the glass roof in the rear - the sales guy told me it's for interior overhead lighting. Whatever it is, it means only short people should sit in the rear middle seat of the I-Pace.

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I needed the car for tax purposes before the end of the year.
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Tesla Corp. seems like it may be falling apart now.
They always have been ... particularity if you read the FUD from the Shorts ...

... might be true this time, of course ...

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Or a nice ICE car. Or just keep waiting...
I've been driving Tesla for a couple of years now. Love the car and the whole EV thing, not got much good to say about service and support (here in UK at least).

Nothing would induce us to buy ICE again. Went on a 450 each-way mile trip just recently (long way for a Brit!!) and got a mile down the road and Tesla announced that it had a puncture so we turned back and took the ICE instead. Very tiring journey, and I was stalling it all over the place, and when my wife did a stint she was in wrong gear much of the time. The sooner we can switch to 100% ICE-free EV driving the better AFAIAC

For a new car my requirement is now: EV, Cruise Control and Stay-in-Lane (at least as good as Tesla AP1) on highway. I'm not fussed about auto-drive on back roads
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