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Model Y: another tablet on wheels

Screenshots from the launch just now. Discuss.
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It's priced incredibly well, the 7 seat arrangement will win some over. It also has better performance (on paper) than our IPaces.

While the build quality will be off, the tech will blow our cars out of the water.

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It still looks like an egg, a shrunken Model X. This is what most people wanted instead of the falcon wing doors. Frankly, I think Tesla body designs are getting boring. It's going through Audi's "Matryoshka" design phase.

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I hope Model Y sells well. Looks like a great car. Still way prefer the I-Pace even with the quirks and limitations.
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It looks like a Model X after you wash it the first time in hot water.

I was thinking they would have done a shooting brake / station wagon.

The Model Y looks dated before it's release date.

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I think it's ugly. How will they fit 7 seats in there? The interior looks horrid. That said, maybe it won't suck. Maybe.
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It looked great in person. There was a white one on static display and they were doing test rides in the blue one that was on stage. The pricing is very aggressive
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It's priced incredibly well, the 7 seat arrangement will win some over. It also has better performance (on paper) than our IPaces.

While the build quality will be off, the tech will blow our cars out of the water.
I have no idea if a Model Y will hold 7 adults. I have a hunch it would not be my choice for that purpose, unless it's bigger inside than the Model X. Note, the 2 added seats aren't free.
If you do have a larger family, minivans are the way to go. There's even one that runs on electricity for most of it's duties. Or real SUVs seat up to 9. Or is that 10? I think it back down to 9 adults now for the Suburban.

Note that there is a EREV minivan that seats 7 adults, has power doors on both sides, dual rear HDTVs, leather, etc, for $45k before $10k worth of EV incentives in California. THAT's a kidmobile. Until you played with removing kiddyseats through passenger doors, you never really understand why minivans exist.

As far as performance goes, take your I-Pace to an AutoX or a track. You don't have to bother to prep the car or have Team Tesla engineers to assist. It's certainly one of the best handling heavy cars ever sold, I'd put it up with the CTS-V. Certainly a step up from the Model S. It's acceleration is where you need it most, in the passing zone of 30-70mph. It pulls strong to ~122, then the limiter gently derates the power until it caps at 127 mph per my GPS. While it's very well behaved, the I-Pace is actually more car than most people are trained to handle. Which is OK, it is very forgiving.

As far as it's tech blowing away the I-Pace, we will see. Tech is more than Easter Eggs and 'Cowbells'. It's ergonomics, chassis tuning, adaptability, packaging, and how everything is integrated. An I-Pace has more usable interior room than a Model 3, yet it's an inch shorter. And the I-Pace has advanced low-traction abilities that no Tesla offers. Does Tesla even offer a dynamic suspension system (dampening changes based on road conditions) yet? I can't think of a MFR that doesn't today. There is a reason the Jaguar 'feels' good in a bumpy corner, and it's called technology.

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It's priced incredibly well, the 7 seat arrangement will win some over. It also has better performance (on paper) than our IPaces.

While the build quality will be off, the tech will blow our cars out of the water.
It may be faster in straight line but outside of the Roadster no Tesla handles and “feels” anywhere near the I Pace. So if measure of performance is just straight line sure. The rest of the drive feel is just off on Teslas.

Also some tech is cool, but not having CarPlay, and a tablet play UI is not my idea of “better tech.” Forgething the lag the one simple temperature control knob is better use of “tech” than the entire giant tablet of the Tesla design.

BTW anyone notice this was the first announcement where it really kind of disappeared? It hasn’t gotten that much play outside of the obvious target sites.
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I'm curious to know why Tesla reveals "new" things on dark stages.



This is mostly indistinguishable from the last two cars. I don't think CUV when looking at it either, any more than a X has me thinking SUV.
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