Warning to those considering the 22" in cold climate - Jaguar I-Pace EV400 Forum
 6Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 06:56 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 338
Warning to those considering the 22" in cold climate

I really should have researched this a bit more before I bought the car... I have the 22" CF wheels and they look incredible!

However, I live in Denver and really want a good all season tire instead of the summer only tire.

The issue is that there are literally NO all-season tires that fit the 22" rim as of now. I've contacted tire rack, the dealer, and discount tire and no one has an idea of even an alternative size that could fit. Perfect.

I did find on 1010tires.com that there is a Pirelli Scorpion snow tire that comes in the correct size. However, they don't have them in the US so they would have to come through Canada - with the tarrifs it's a challenge to get them over and will cost extra to get here.

Then I contacted the dealer about buying a second set of 20" wheels for the winter - those are 1200/wheel!

Soooo I'm more or less forced to get the Pirelli Scorpions and swap them out seasonally. Not the worst, but our temps aren't that severe and I'll burn through them quickly. Also don't love the idea of subjecting these rims to having tires taken off and on since few shops can work on them well.

If anyone has any other bright ideas, I'm game. Otherwise, let this post serve as a warning to others to not get the 22" rims if you live somewhere that has snow!

Regards,
sgtpeper is online now  
post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 07:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 121
Garage
You should see if any other i-Pace owners on the board want to sell you the 18" off of their S model in case they replaced them with larger aftermarket wheels.
CyberSlug is offline  
post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 08:48 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Southwest, Florida USA
Posts: 290
Or just another I-Pace owner who wants to trade up to the 22s. They look stunning - garner lots of compliments.

2019 I-Pace 400EV HSE First Edition
Santorini Black/Black Window/Grill Trim
Ebony Leather Sport Seats/Suede Headliner
Fully Extended Leather/Ash Wood Trim
Heads-Up Display/Four-Zone Climate
22" 5069 Carbon Wheels/Rubber Mats x5
Delivered 12/22/18
dtgsrq is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 08:51 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 338
Yes, they look really really good! I especially love how they look when the car is at access height.
sgtpeper is online now  
post #5 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 09:27 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Southwest, Florida USA
Posts: 290
Yep, they really "fill" the wheel wells and increase the futuristic look of the vehicle. Once I spotted the 22s I never even considered smaller... snow tires not an issue in FL.

2019 I-Pace 400EV HSE First Edition
Santorini Black/Black Window/Grill Trim
Ebony Leather Sport Seats/Suede Headliner
Fully Extended Leather/Ash Wood Trim
Heads-Up Display/Four-Zone Climate
22" 5069 Carbon Wheels/Rubber Mats x5
Delivered 12/22/18
dtgsrq is offline  
post #6 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-18-2019, 10:06 PM
Senior Member
 
McRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Norco, California, USA
Posts: 1,170
Here's the specs for our cars: https://www.wheel-size.com/size/jaguar/i-pace/2019/ All are same hub dia. All of these are going be very close in circumference.

235/65R18 106V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
245/50R20 105V 8Jx20 ET52 5x108
255/40R22 103V 8.5Jx22 ET50.5 5x108

F-Pace:

235/65R18 110V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
255/60R18 112V 7.5Jx18 ET45 5x108
255/55ZR19 111W 8.5Jx19 ET45 5x108
255/50ZR20 109W 8.5Jx20 ET45 5x108
265/40ZR22 106Y 9Jx22 ET45 5x108


If I were in your situation and did not want to purchase a set of winter rims (18's would be a good choice), I'd look at the 265/40-22 Michelin Pilot Sport All Season: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...e&autoModClar=

Jaguar i-Pace FE Photon Red 20" wheels, "Leaper"
Two Chevrolet Volts in service
24.2 kW x 480v 3ph solar array self-installed.
McRat is online now  
post #7 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2019, 12:51 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 338
Thanks, McRat - when I called 1010 they were concerned because so far they don't think a wider tire will fit on this rim.

If they do fit, any thoughts on the added rolling resistance of a wider tire? I mean, the stock tire is already 10" wide ha.
sgtpeper is online now  
post #8 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2019, 02:20 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Norway
Posts: 139
I got 20" winter tires and 22" summer tires. I would definitely want to drive on 22" during winter conditions though, i can just imagine the rims will take a beating. Most European countries dont really use all season tires. I have never understood this though, in North America even climates like Canada where the winters are long and tough all season tires are still more common then the separate winter / summer tire combination. Here the winters are not that bad but every October and April everyone change their tires.
phila is offline  
post #9 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2019, 08:57 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 338
If i were using this car to go to the mountains a lot, I would get dedicated winter tires. However, this is my work and will just see city use. Because of that snow tires will simply wear out too quickly. In the middle of winter, we can have temps in the 40 and 50 - Fahrenheit that is.
sgtpeper is online now  
post #10 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2019, 09:21 AM
Senior Member
 
McRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Norco, California, USA
Posts: 1,170
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtpeper View Post
Thanks, McRat - when I called 1010 they were concerned because so far they don't think a wider tire will fit on this rim.

If they do fit, any thoughts on the added rolling resistance of a wider tire? I mean, the stock tire is already 10" wide ha.
<- Guy on internet who has done a lot of different hobby racing, and has 5 sets of different tires for a Corvette, and has had custom one-off wheels built.

The tires are 10" wide at the carcass, not the contact patch (8.9")

Ideally, you should have 1/2" wider rim for 265's which are on paper 0.394" wider (about width of you pinky finger nail). The tire is about 1% larger in circumference and sticks out less than a 1/4" per side. It actually will resist curbing the wheels some. I often do this to my wife's car, run 10-20mm wider for some curb protection.
They said the same "too wide" thing about the Volt which comes with 215's and I ran 235's Pirelli CINTURATO P7 WITH SEAL INSIDE - SIZE: 235/45R17. They worked fine, but since they were performance self-sealing tires, I don't expect them to make it to 40,000 miles. Zero effect on range for my application. Better track performance. I have a 'metered' loop I drive, that I've done 100's of times over the years, not a noticeable difference once the tires have 2000 miles of wear on them. Tires will improve their performance when they get some wearing in. Racers shave 1/2 the tread depth off their tires before using them, Tirerack does it for about $15 a wheel.

Cliff Notes: If it were my car, I'd run them. But to play it safe, you need a wider or smaller dia rim to have tire choices. The most winter worthy 255/40-22 I can find is https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...e&autoModClar= Which should have significantly better grip on ice than the Pirelli.
NerdUno likes this.

Jaguar i-Pace FE Photon Red 20" wheels, "Leaper"
Two Chevrolet Volts in service
24.2 kW x 480v 3ph solar array self-installed.
McRat is online now  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cold weather expectations? Dantrium 2018+ I-Pace EV Range, MPGE And Economy 13 12-09-2018 01:44 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome