Long time lurker (and poster on the facebook groups), first-time poster here.
Let me preferace this with the fact I'm car geek through and through. I grew up restoring classic E-Types, Triumphs, Alfas, etc. I currently have an X5 diesel as a daily driver for work, a Volvo XC90 for my wife, a Porsche 996 Turbo, and a classic Alfa Spider.
I'm in the real estate industry - realtor and developer and picked my diesel X5 as it was the most efficient option at the time. It's time for a new car and I want to do better. So, I'd like to go electric. I've driven the I-Pace - 4 times plus the dealer let me borrow their proto type one for the weekend. I've also driven a Model S and Model X from Tesla - the latter for over an hour today. The S seemed to lack any sportiness but the X seems better.
Below are my thoughts on driving both the I-Pace and Model X 100D in hopes you all can talk sense to me.
-The acceleration is amazing. It seems to have more torque than the Model X - at least in feel.
-The seats are much much better than the Model X.
-I'm short, but still like the giant roof on the Jag better than the weird tesla windshield - I live in Colorado and have had a ton of windshields replaced and can't imagine someone replacing the one on the Tesla.
-The tech is fine, but I did have problems on most of the cars they let me drive (3). I know this is being worked on, but will it ever be a really great system? I actually love the idrive on my BMW.
-Being able to use the nav quickly is important when I'm showing homes. Almost every single time I tried to use voice command it failed or took forever. I can use apple can play, but I just hate cords!
-I'm torn between the sport seats and the performance seats.
-I think it's dumb they didn't do a power tilt/telescope steering column. Even my 09 335 had that.
Model X 100D
-Roomier for clients overall.
-I don't really like the falcon doors as they take time and someone could feel claustrophobic back there. Also, anyone in the middle needs to be short - this was a 5 passenger version.
-I did find myself liking the infotainment much more. It seems to be less buggy and I did like controlling almost everything from the steering wheel.
-Because I get my cars through my own company, the fact the X is 6k lbs is great for a write-off.
Overall, I really felt like the Model X was like driving a Mercedes SUV - decent handling, lumbering, and swift. The Jag feels like a Jag should - much more like a sports car with some luxury. One of my big worries is that with all these initial issues, this car will go the way of the i3 - a great car that you can get for pennies on the dollar even new.
Normally, I think posting like this on a one-sided forum will just get fanboy responses, however, there seem to be enough people who love and hate their car on here.
Thanks for your responses and for having me on the forum!
I'm a previous owner of a Tesla Model X, actually two, and experienced a ton of problems. First one was bought back because of so many fit and finish issues (paint runs, misaligned body panels, interior rattle and noises, stitching not complete on seats, and more). Second one was better but still fair share of issues and spent most of its life with service. One of the most annoying issues was with that front windshield. It gave me double vision at night. It's all over the Tesla forums. I actually got hooked up with a really good senior tech from Tesla and he personally took care of as much as he could on my car. He found a windshield that didn't have what they were calling ghosting issues. Also that windshield is around $1500 to replace. The one issue no one could figure out is why my driver window constantly came off track after rolling it down then back up. I'm not kidding, they came out to my house and changed the window regulator seven times in the driver door. I had similar issue in the passenger door and after four regulators it was fixed. My buddy at Tesla said they have way better luck with the Model S than the X. That's the reason they use Model S's as their ranger cars vs the X from what he told me. The doors are another story. They had many, many, adjustments and lubing. They were actually were fine after I traded it in, but they became more of a nuisance after the cool factor wore off. I had mixed experiences with Tesla service, but did start to notice longer that usually wait times, believe it was because the Model 3 was taking priority. I used to be able to call into Tesla service and someone would pick-up right away and be able to address my question or problem fairly quickly or get me in touch with someone from the nearest service center. That then changed to wait times of 45-60 mins and impossible to get service appts. I did like the home service, but that's only good for certain things. For me I just had way too many problems. I also missed having a more sportier car. I'm surprised you felt the S wasn't sporty or sporty enough. That's the one thing I really like about the S. I had the P100D, brand new, as a loaner for a couple months and thought it was great. I'm 6'1 avg build and did have some challenges getting in and out of it.
I do like the I-Pace a lot better as far as build quality, comfortable, and drivability. I'm not liking the range and charging capabilities. It charges a lot slower than my Tesla and I'm getting about 190-195 real world range. It's actually been at the service center this week because I brought up concern about range, rattling noise in the front struts, and squeaky brake pedal. For the dealer I'm going to service is poor. I think this is mainly due to the car being so new and the lack of training and experience. For range concern they stated the engineering team in NJ ran some tests on my car and everything is working as expected. They stated avg max range is 210 miles. That's fine for your average driving I guess, but not for longer trips. I used to take the Tesla up and down CA and only had to stop once for a charge. Since the fast charging network isn't really up yet I wouldn't try a trip like this in the I-Pace. Charging the Tesla at home I would get 54/55 miles per hours. I-Pace on the home Chargepoint charger gets 20 miles per hour. Argument I've seen on this is that most people only drive 30 - 40 miles in an average day so slow charging at home, overnight, should be fine. I don't really agree with this because I drive a lot more than that and since chargers are really in convenient locations I want to charge at home in between running around. Maybe I just drive too much, but I live in the bay area and there's a lot to do and see in all different areas. Plus the I-Pace is supposedly showing you a dialed in real world range estimate, but its still a guess o meter. Example, I was fully charged showing estimated range of 210 miles. I drove to the Sacramento airport which is 54 miles from home. The car used 73 miles on the way there and 84 miles on the way back. On the way there I drove conservatively with no heater/ac on. On the way back I used dynamic mode for about ten minuets and had the ac on about half the way. Doing that same trip in my MX I always just drove and always had the ac or heater on. You use the AC a lot in the MX because its always stuffy; not sure why. I usually drove the MX aggressively and used about 65 miles. The I-Pace isn't as efficient as a Tesla.
Sorry this is way too long. Just my feedback on my experiences so far.